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The Evolving Meaning Of Burnout | Professor Gail Kinman

Season 2, Ep. 7

Are we all burnt out?

The term became so ubiquitous during the pandemic it came close to losing its meaning. However for many people struggling to managing the stresses of lockdown, childcare, demanding jobs and economic uncertainty, it became a way to communicate something quickly and with limited vulnerability. "I'm burned out" became a way to say many other things.

Burnout does have a clear definition though. This week on the podcast, occupational health psychologist and researcher Professor Gail Kinman guides us through what we mean we we say burnout. Host Does using it as a catch-all phrase make is meaningless? What is emotional labour? And very importantly - what's going on when we cry at work?

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