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How I Scaled My Team
Why does it pay to be bold, transparent and confrontational?
In this week’s episode, we talk with Jessica Williams, VP of People at Refine Labs, about how to maintain – and uproot – your organisational culture as you grow.
All successful businesses reach a series of crossroads as they get bigger. Often, the strengths that led a start-up to its next stage come under threat from internal and external factors. It can be tempting to stay true to the values and ethos you started with, but this can just as easily hold you back.
So how can you know when to gradually evolve elements of your organisation’s set-up, and when might it be time to literally rewrite your rulebook?
Jessica joined Refine Labs as Employee Number 30, and they now have four times that headcount. She’s got hard-won insights on when companies need to react in ways that can leave employees fearing change – and how to act to bring those employees along with you on your new journey. She’s also got good advice on how to stop your C-suite personnel acting like you’re still a small team once you’ve outgrown your original ambitions.
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