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Secret Lives and Tragic Consequences

Ep. 35

Content warning: In this episode, we discuss suicide, online harassment, and death threats.


Today we share two unsettling stories with the common themes of living secret lives and doing things that others would be shocked to discover.


You'll hear about the tragic story of Alabama Pastor and Mayor, Fred 'Bubba' Copeland, who, forced to live his life in the closet, used private social media accounts to present himself as a transgender woman and encourage transgender people to come out and go on hormone replacement therapy. After his secret life was exposed by a conservative news website and he was subsequently subjected to relentless online bullying, he took his life. We discuss the complex issues involved in cases like this and the ways that pressure to suppress one’s identity can lead to dire outcomes.


You'll also hear about a story published in the San Francisco Chronicle, in which a financially successful and apparently mentally stable man made several death threats to an operator from a Mental Health Hotline for LGBTQ+ youth in California. The name and address of this man, who lives in San Francisco, have been identified, but he will not likely face any consequences due to his power and wealth.


In This Episode, You Will Learn:

  • Pastor Fred 'Bubba' Copeland's tragic story (1:30)
  • The effects of being forced to live a life in the closet (13:20)
  • Online harassment shouldn't remain unpunished (16:00)
  • People who spread hate online and showcase a "normal" life on a different platform (17:00)


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