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Apicius, Rome's Most Extravagant Gourmand Pt2
Welcome to the latest episode of our archaeogastronomical adventures!
On this two part podcast, I am honoured to have Andrew Kenrick from University of East Anglia with me, who studied extensively about the Roman cuisine 2000 years ago. Specifically, he investigated a lot and he is very passionate about, the famous -and some will say infamous- gourmand Apicius. The only complete recipe book we have today from the ancient world bears the name of Apicius! Who was he? what did he do to change the course of food and gastronomy in the ancient world and also today? Andrew's knowledge on the subject is quite vast and some of the historical fact nuggets very fascinating! Together today we'll delve into the time of the early Roman empire; a universe of exotic delicacies, extravagant luxuries, extreme ingredients and impossible journeys to find the tastiest food of the ancient world!
Would you eat peacock's brains and flamingos tongues? Would you travel 12 days on a wooden ship to find the best prawns?
Part 2 is a lot about the recipes themselves, ingredients, and recreating Apicius in the modern kitchen. Is it relevant? is it tasty? is it too alien or too similar to our diet?
In any case find what else Apicius suggests to eat!
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