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The Hell Talk, Part 1: It’s All Greek to Me
We got the start of something real interesting going here! A multi-part in-depth study on Hell. Yes, the Hell. But it’s not the study you think. It’s a study where we really dive into the concept, origin, and histories of Hell. Growing up in church, very often asking questions is discouraged. But now we can ask questions, and we should ask questions, and not be afraid to! None of Paul’s writings mention Hell and they were written closer to Jesus’s time than the Gospels were. That offers up some very interesting questions to us, and questions are okay—What does Jesus talk about when he talks about Hell? Jay dives into a little bit of that today as well. Does the concept of Hell fly in the face of the Beatitudes? What do we love when we love God? Is the suffering we witness today Hell on Earth? Why is Hell defended and championed so much? Why does everyone want to send everyone else to Hell all the time? It’s time to reexamine some of the things and theology we’ve turned into golden calves. Revolution has always tried to focus on living before death and living well, more then it ever did on the thought of an After Life. But this is a topic well worth diving into, and that’s what we’re going to do.
Please note: Today’s talk is just the basics. It’s just setting the foundations for the series as a whole and some of the concepts that will be talked about in the future. We’re not going that in-depth today. We understand this is a very complex topic. This talk is just the base work. Some of it may sound too over simplified, we get that, but this is just part 1!
This talk was given on October 22, 2023 from Seattle, Washington.
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Previously On.
50:15|Jay catches us up on Galatians as we try to make it through the rest of the book. That is if the good Lord willing and the creek don't rise.......revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
Self-Centered vs. Other-Centered
54:04|Fresh back from Belfast!revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
Is Empathy a Sin?
45:10|Jay discusses why empathy is the basis of Christianity. Jesus was clear in Luke 10, using the Samaritan who, instead of asking "What would happen to me if I stopped?", asked "What would happen to this person if I don't stop?". In a current climate that coins phrases such as "toxic empathy" it's difficult to contextualize that compassion to the "least of these" has become counter culture. The hope is that we can love each other enough to show active compassion to meet the needs of our communities. revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
assume nothing, except diversity
01:06:44|“Peace without justice is a false ideal” - Jay BakkerCelebrating differences and promoting the healing process.revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
Freedom For Everyone
10:47|Unfortunately, Jay is under the weather with the flu this week, so we have a short, but very important talk. This is a great time to consider our intentions and our desire to not only advocate for others but for those that need freedom from the being an oppressor. I am sure that many of us know someone that has had a change of heart and now feels differently about someone else. We have to consider that loving others is a calling to put in the work to help with our collective growth. This time is about coming together and that should continue to be our intention. revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
We're all in the same boat now (Late peace makers and the current state of things)
01:07:05|It’s hard to find a lot of optimism right now. Compassion and mercy should always be bi-partisan. If you believe in grace and mercy, asking a leader to show mercy is something that should always be acceptable to ask for. When we are more divided than we have ever been, radical acceptance of where we are currently and where others are as well, will help us find common ground and, ultimately, the change we all hope for. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. saw the need for us to come together and that violence was never an option. John Hume stated that “when people are divided, then only solution is agreement”. Continuing in Galatians follows Paul’s work in bringing a divided city together. It might take years, but it’s worth it. It might take a radical movement of reaching out to people that we might disagree with in order to find ways that we can agree. revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
Galatians 2025: Part 3
57:50|Is everyone welcome? When you turn away from grace too soon, it doesn’t have time to be inclusive. Jay was very excited about this message from Galatians 2. Paul takes a huge step towards inclusion. You might say he was a Super Friend to speak the truth to the disciples and to advocate for others. When Paul met with James, John and Peter in Jerusalem he reveals his message of reaching the Galatians. This was a transmutation away from the insular religious tradition to suggest that the entirety of humanity should be able to be included and receive the gospel.The church of Jerusalem, through this message, became the most diverse community in the early church. Sound familiar? There’s no need to be afraid of inclusion.This was a big moment for Paul speaking to the people in Jerusalem and we often take it for granted that he was reaching out to the Gentiles (everyone). Paul was such a big part of making the first church more inclusive. He was a champion for inclusion. That inclusion was the gospel and Paul was always trying to make sure that people lived the gospel and didn’t forget that we’re all one. revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastinghttps://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
Galatians 2025: Part 2
01:04:10|A lot of this talk was about figuring out how we treat the disease rather than constantly fighting just the symptoms. Paul was able to take critique and often just ignore it and able to stand in his truth. We can lear to not be distracted by and Balme the individual but take it a deeper look at the system to find out what the root cause of an issue is. How does Grace fit into all how we treat people? The evolution of Grace in our own lives and the universal acceptance of grace teaches us to universally accept it for all people.revolutionchurch.cominstagram.com/revolutionchurch94x.com/Revolution_1994x.com/JayBakker5www.youtube.com/@RevolutionBroadcastingpaypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7FXFBB8PSWEEC&source=url
Galatians 2025: Part 1
52:30|The perfect way to start off a new year is to revisit Galatians! Jay's talk covers a lot of ground in Galatians 1 and discusses how the writings of Paul can be practically applied in the current times. The hope is that this message can be used to encourage all of us to argue well, have empathy towards each other and bridge the gap that has been forming between us all. This talk was given on January 6, 2025 from Seattle, Washington.www.facebook.com/revolutionchurchmnwww.revolutionchurch.com/donatewww.youtube.com/revolutionbroadcasting@jaybakker@revolution1994@revolution94