Share
Rethink. Financial Advice
Rethinking 65 Retirement Realities: Featuring Keena Pettijohn & Dorothy Hinchcliff [Ep 28]
Season 2, Ep. 28
•
How can an advisor who’s never retired or reached age 65 advise clients on how to transition to retirement? Join Adam and Derek as they debate this question and hear from two expert guests that share some timely advice on how advisors can support their clients into living a meaningful life post 65. It’s more than just AUM and distribution planning but a comprehensive “relationship” model to truly support your clients throughout their retirement life & health spans. Jump in and listen to learn and take your practice to the next level!
Adam, Derek, Keena, and Dorothy discuss:
- Healthspan vs. Lifespan awareness
- Advisors should rethink the post 65 demographic as a profitable business niche
- The challenge & opportunity to grow AUM for clients in the distribution phase
- Do more than just “investments” for the 65+ demographic
- Change your question from “how many years left do I have to do X” to “how many more times do I have to do X?”
- Relationships over AUM lead to a profitable business
Resources:
- Follow RethinkFA on LinkedIn
- Connect with Keena Pettijohn on LinkedIn
- Connect with Dorothy Hinchcliff on LinkedIn
- Check out LifeLogixs
- Check out Rethinking 65
Connect With Derek and Adam:
More episodes
View all episodes
67. Can a Fiduciary Mindset Improve Society? Featuring George Kinder (Ep 67)
53:53||Season 3, Ep. 67Check out this special edition where Adam & Derek have a follow up conversation with the Father of Life Planning, George Kinder, who previously joined us on Rethink Episode 15. Find out what George has been up to, the stance he’s taking on what it means to be a Fiduciary and how he would like to see it applied to society, and learn about his new book!In this episode George, Adam and Derek chat about:Salespeople/media (short term thinking) VS Fiduciaries/planners (long term thinking) - But being a salesperson, like most advisors startout as is all about short term survival, hard to move to long term think when I can’t pay rent.How can we not have a fiduciary civilization when we are global?Fiduciary means a steward of other’s best interests (not our own) and how Human beings are naturally selfish - how can we have both?Corporations can be more than fiduciaries to their shareholdersThe Fiduciary Standard, applied to media, etc. could help us fix the issue of people not even being able to talk about our differences anymoreAltruist ideals vs. Human self interest on a global scaleLimited liability is the root cause of removed responsibility (protection from personal responsibility)And lots more!Resources:Follow George Kinder on LinkedInCheck out George Kinder.com and his new book “The Three Domains of Freedom”Check out the Kinder Institute of Life Planning WebsiteFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman66. Advice Mindset - Purpose and Principles featuring Breanna Blaney
40:06||Season 3, Ep. 66Check out this special edition where Adam chats with Breanna Blaney, VP, Director of Life, Invested at Dimensional Fund Advisors about the advice mindset and how purpose and principles fit into it all. This is a fun episode that Adam recorded in person with Breanna at the SHIFT conference while Derek was traveling in South Africa. In this episode, Adam navigates a riveting conversation on the intersection of financial advice, personal wellness, and human ingenuity. Learn how the principles of yoga and Ayurveda can infuse meaning into financial practices, and discover actionable steps advisors can take to be more empathetic, holistic, and ultimately, transformative for their clients. Tune in for groundbreaking insights that could reshape how you think about money and life.In this episode Breanna, Adam and Derek chat about:Questioning your Why for everythingCustomer experienceEmpathyMoney, stress, and wellnessInvestor behavior and fear around money and how it relates to returnsWhat are clients willing to pay for?How our self worth is tied up in moneyYour and your clients money mindsetHow to change peoples lives and drive better outcomesAnd lots more!Resources:Follow Breanna Blaney on LinkedInFollow Dimensional on LinkedInCheck out Dimensional's WebsiteFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman65. The Evolution of Financial Education Featuring George Nichols III
46:50||Season 3, Ep. 65What does the future of financial education look like and how will it impact the growth of your business? Let’s find out from the leaders in financial education as we chat with our friend George Nichols III, President and CEO of The American College of Financial Services. George helps us understand what they are seeing on a national level when it comes to shifting consumer expectations and how the College is evolving to meet these demands while also expanding their support to advisors to help them thrive. And…learn more about the exciting partnership announcement between the College and Couplr AI!! In this episode George, Adam and Derek chat about:Why too many advisors fail to meet what clients need & wantHow we need to do a better job paying attention to what clients want and need and delivering on themThe trend of more successful advisorsThe transfer of wealth opportunity/challengeTime to Rethink the commission and incentive structureThe industry needs to speed up to meet the expectations of the clientThe American College of Financial Services partnership with Couplr AIAnd lots more!Resources:Follow George Nichols III on LinkedInFollow George Nicholls III on X/TwitterLearn more about The American College of Financial ServicesThe College & Couplr AI Press AnnouncementFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman64. Client Engagement vs. Satisfaction featuring Ashley Quamme
44:05||Season 3, Ep. 64What’s more important - Client Satisfaction or Client Engagement? Can satisfaction be high with low engagement? How can financial professionals help clients better engage in the financial planning process? Join us as we unpack these questions and more with special guest Ashley Quamme, Fractional Financial Behavior Officer for firms and advisors, where we talk about the shift to human-first advice and what it means for advisors. If you’re looking to grow then this is a topic you don’t want to miss.In this episode Ashely, Adam and Derek chat about:Client satisfaction vs. engagementThe knowing/doing gapAdvisors being in the relationship business but not getting formal relationship trainingHow to build relationships with under engaged spousesCommunication and rapport building and setting the expectations up frontLooking in the mirror to better serve your clientsAnd lots more!Resources:Follow Ashley Quamme on LinkedInFollow Ashley Quamme on X/TwitterLearn more about Ashley’s services at Beyond the CFPFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman63. Are your estate documents in order? Featuring Cody Barbo
39:29||Season 3, Ep. 63Are your and your clients estate planning documents in order?When was the last time you and your clients reviewed them? Upwards of 68% of Americans don’t have a will, yet we all are going to need one some day. Whether you’re an advisor looking to expand your services and deepen your relationship with your clients, or you’re a consumer looking for a cutting-edge estate planning solution, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Join us and serial entrepreneur and CEO and co-founder of Trust & Will, Cody Barbo, as we dive into all things estate planning.In this episode Cody, Adam and Derek chat about:The Full stack advisor - Advisors are uniquely positioned to help clients with all sorts of things including estate planningEstate planning is an Everybody problemWealth Transfer - a huge opportunity for estate planningExpanding your servicesDo advisors have their own estate planning done?When was the last time a client reviewed their estate planning they previously did?Can you help your younger clients with estate planning to get introduced to their older parents? The lack of education and good old procrastination - main reasons clients don’t have an estate plan. And lots more!Resources:Follow Cody Barbo on LinkedInFollow Cody Barbo on X/TwitterCheck out the Trust & Will solution for Financial AdvisorsCheck out Trust & Will for consumersFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman62. Financial Advice in the convenience economy featuring Jamie Hopkins
37:58||Season 3, Ep. 62What is the convenience economy and why should advisors care? Advisors used to focus on the client experience but that has changed recently as the consumer is more concerned about convenience over experience. People love convenience, where it’s what movie to watch on Netflix or ordering a coffee on your phone, people want and seek out convenience in all aspects of their life. So naturally people will look for a convenient experience when it comes to their money. Join us as we explore this topic and many more with our friend, fellow REBL Dad, and industry expert Jamie Hopkins.In this episode Jamie, Adam and Derek chat about:Who’s going to come out ahead given the current convergence in our industry?Advisors are not unique. What are their differentiated services & value adds?3 Biggest needs the client is looking for: tax planning - Bill Harris (Ep. 59), estate planning with trust services, bank services)You need to know what your clients want & need.Wallet Share is not really known by advisors despite their confidenceConvenience economy over experience economyRIAs should not try to solve ALL problems/needs - do it, buy it, outsource itDigital assets conversation - value addAnd lots more!Resources:Follow Jamie Hopkins on LinkedInFollow Jamie Hopkins on X/TwitterCheck out Bryn Mawr Capital ManagementFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman61. The Struggles of Being a Dadpreneur
44:27||Season 3, Ep. 61What is a REBL Dad? What are the struggles of being a dadpreneur? These are the questions that took an idea and turned it into an epic experience on Necker Island. Being a dad can be really challenging. Being an entrepreneur can also be really hard. Trying to balance being the best you can be at both is a whole different type of challenge. In this episode we dive into what the REBL Dads community is, how it came to be, and the deep and meaningful experience shared by a group of dadpreneurs on Necker Island. There’s so much here, time to dive in!In this episode Adam and Derek chat about:What is a REBL Dad?How to balance being a great dad and entrepreneurThe Epidemic of fatherhood - given the remote nature of work from anywhere, people who want to be better leaders at home and work.Amazing takeaways and insights from a group of REBL DadsInsights from OG REBL Dad Sir Richard BransonAnd lots more!Resources:Following REBL Dads on LinkedInCheck out the REBL Dads websiteFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman60. Do you have partners or vendors? Featuring Brad Johnson
43:57||Season 3, Ep. 60Should financial advisors expect more from the vendors they partner with? Advisors tend to be bombarded from vendors with all types of solutions, products, and so on, but are the vendors acting like a true partner to the advisor? Join us as we explore this interesting topic with experienced industry veteran Brad Johnson to learn more about the difference between a vendor and partner and what advisors should be thinking about when it comes to who they end up working with.In this episode Brad, Adam and Derek chat about:How the Industry is focused on selling ingredients instead of productWhy deep partnerships cannot serve the masses (McDonalds vs Local High end Steak house)Why Advisors love the Industrialized model until they don’t - once they have personalized their firm, brand, offerings, etc. the FMO/Industrialized model is less attractive.Advisors are using a Do business Do Life values/mission to drive who they partner withThe definition of success for Financial Advisors is broken. “Redline behavior burnout” is celebrated which is so messed up, an “entrepreneurial lie”And lots more!Resources:Follow Brad Johnson on LinkedInCheck out Brad’s Do Business Do Life podcastLearn more about Triad PartnersFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapFacebook: Asset-MapTwitter: Asset_MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman59. Insights from the former CEO of TurboTax, PayPal, and Personal Capital featuring Bill Harris
43:16||Season 3, Ep. 59What can advisors learn from the former CEO of TurboTax, PayPal, and Personal Capital?For over 25 years Bill Harris has been at the intersection of money, taxes, and digital technology. As a pioneer in financial technology Bill brings unique and extensive insights into how technology is changing our interactions with money and what advisors, and their clients, should be thinking about. Bill provides invaluable insight into how technology can revolutionize the financial advisory industry. A key takeaway is that financial advisors should leverage technology to facilitate a greater human connection with their clients. Bill also unveils his new book, which simplifies tax strategy for investors. Join us for this one of a kind conversation!In this episode Bill, Adam and Derek chat about:How the industry is stuck in the past using outdated technologyThe entire business model can be revolutionizedReplacing manual intervention with technologyHow Advisors should be doing the things a client isn’t forced to doAdvocating for tech within your firm and actually using itChanging the pace of your practice with technologyA greater digital/virtual experienceBill’s new book, Investment Tax GuideResources:Follow Bill Harris on LinkedInFollow RethinkFA on LinkedInListen to RethinkFA on YouTube PodcastsFind us on Digital Wealth NewsApply to be a guest on the RethinkFA Think TankConnect With Adam Holt:Schedule an Asset-Map DemoAsset-Map LinkedIn: Adam HoltLinkedIn: Asset-MapConnect With Derek Notman:Schedule a Couplr DemoCouplrAILinkedIn: Derek NotmanLinkedIn: CouplrTwitter: Derek Notman