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65: Saw with Louis Peitzman
This week on Podcast Like It’s The 2000s, hosts @pmiscove and @emilystjams kick off a brand new Halloween miniseries, Somebody Scare Phil, with guest Louis Peitzman (Chasing Amy Adams). Together, they dive into the bloody brilliance and DIY spirit of James Wan and Leigh Whannell’s 2004 indie phenomenon Saw a film that reshaped horror on a shoestring budget and gave rise to a genre-defining franchise.
The trio break down Saw’s grimy aesthetics, moral puzzles, and the line between psychological thriller and full-blown torture horror. Plus, Phil reveals how the franchise both terrifies and fascinates him (and why Emily might just make him watch all nine sequels).
Recorded as part of the Somebody Scare Phil miniseries where Emily forces Phil to face his horror movie blind spots this episode’s a twisted treat for cinephiles who love a good scream and a good think.
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71: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with Alonso Duralde
01:42:17|Our 2000s Holiday Noir miniseries kicks off with a film that helped relaunch Robert Downey Jr.’s career and reintroduced Shane Black to a new generation: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Phil and Emily are joined by film critic and historian Alonso Duralde to unpack why this meta-crime-comedy still feels like lightning in a bottle.The trio digs into the movie’s razor-sharp script, its chaotic but affectionate relationship to noir, and the way Shane Black balances darkness with a wink. They explore Michelle Monaghan’s standout performance, Val Kilmer’s iconic turn as Gay Perry, and what made this moment in RDJ’s career so precarious and so thrilling.They also dive into the film’s tone-shifting structure, its overplotted charm, its self-aware narration, and why the movie’s emotional core sneaks up on you. Along the way, they talk Shane Black’s imitators, the difficulty of pulling off postmodern genre homage, and how this film manages to love the very tropes it skewers. Whether Kiss Kiss Bang Bang has been a long-time favorite or a movie you somehow missed, this episode revisits the 2005 cult classic with fresh eyes, big laughs, and a deep appreciation for what makes it so deceptively tricky and so rewatchable.
70: Charlie Wilson’s War with Sonia Saraiya
01:53:46|Our Mike Nichols 2000s miniseries continues with one of the director’s strangest career anomalies: Charlie Wilson’s War. Phil and Emily are joined by critic and writer Sonia Saraiya to unpack how Nichols, Aaron Sorkin, Tom Hanks, and Julia Roberts came together to make a political dramedy that feels breezy on the surface but carries enormous historical weight underneath.The conversation digs into the true story behind the film Charlie Wilson, Joanne Herring, and CIA operative Gust Avrakotos and how their covert efforts armed Afghan fighters during the Soviet Afghan War. Phil breaks down the film’s compressed narrative and its reluctance to grapple with the long-term consequences of U.S. involvement, including the geopolitical chain reaction the movie only gestures toward. Sonia and Emily explore Sorkin’s ideology, the movie’s softened satire, and how the adaptation diverged from the darker, sharper script Nichols originally signed onto.From Philip Seymour Hoffman’s electric performance to Nichols’ complicated, last-years-of-his-career filmmaking context, the episode traces how the movie became both an accessible studio comedy and a missed opportunity for deeper political reckoning. They also examine the infamous alternate ending, Nichols’ battle over the cut, and the creative tug-of-war between Hanks, Sorkin, and the studio.Whether you’ve revisited Charlie Wilson’s War recently or haven’t thought about it since 2007, this episode highlights why the film is entertaining, frustrating, and uniquely revealing about the final chapter of Mike Nichols’ film career.
69: Closer with Sean Fennessey
01:18:49|This week, we continue our Mike Nichols miniseries with a deep dive into Closer (2004), joined by Sean Fennessey of The Big Picture. It’s a film that captivated many of us in our early 20s only to unravel under rewatch with age, perspective, and healthier emotional boundaries.We unpack why Closer once felt like “grown-up cinema,” how its theatrical origins shape its structure, and why its four leads Julia Roberts, Jude Law, Natalie Portman, and Clive Owen are all performing at maximum intensity inside a script that might not deserve them. From the infamous strip-club scene to the messy power dynamics, contradictions, and emotional violence embedded in Patrick Marber’s writing, we ask the question: does any of this actually work?Sean brings insight into Nichols’ career, the film’s mid-2000s cultural footprint (including its unexpected influence on emo/screamo lyrics), and the era’s attempt to manufacture Jude Law into Hollywood’s next megastar. And yes, we talk about Damien Rice, the Oscars, and why Closer remains a fascinating artistic contradiction: a film full of great performances inside a story that collapses under scrutiny.
68: Angels in America: Part Two with Joe Reid
01:50:01|In the conclusion to their Mike Nichols miniseries, Phil and Emily welcome Joe Reid (Vulture, This Had Oscar Buzz) to unpack Angels in America: Part Two Perestroika.The trio dives deep into how Nichols translated Tony Kushner’s monumental stage play into one of HBO’s most ambitious miniseries exploring its themes of prophecy, identity, queer resilience, and the intersection of politics and spirituality in 1980s America. They discuss the legacy of Angels as both a masterpiece of television and a cultural turning point for the medium itself, its sweeping performances from Meryl Streep, Al Pacino, and Mary-Louise Parker, and how Nichols closed out his career redefining prestige TV.This episode caps a thoughtful look back at Nichols’ 2000s work, from Wit to Angels in America, examining how he brought cinematic intimacy to television storytelling.
67: Angels in America: Part One with Adam B. Vary
02:18:43|This week on Podcast Like It’s The 2000s, Phil and Emily begin their deep dive into Mike Nichols’ monumental HBO miniseries, Angels in America with special guest Adam B. Vary (Variety).Together, they unpack Tony Kushner’s sweeping adaptation of his Pulitzer Prize winning play, exploring how Nichols brought the AIDS crisis, politics, and spirituality to television with raw emotional power. From Meryl Streep’s transformative performance to Al Pacino’s chilling portrayal of Roy Cohn, the trio explores the artistry, ambition, and legacy of a project that redefined what prestige TV could be.They also discuss how Angels in America marked the pinnacle of HBO’s early 2000s dominance, bridging the era between The Sopranos and Six Feet Under and setting the tone for the next two decades of prestige television.If you want to hear Part 2, full video episodes, and exclusive behind-the-scenes conversations, join the Podcast Like It’s Patreon community for more. 🌈 👉 patreon.com/PodcastLikeIts
66: Paranormal Activity with Emily Hughes
01:29:02|This week on Podcast Like It’s The 2000s, Phil and Emily welcome writer Emily Hughes to discuss Paranormal Activity — the micro-budget phenomenon that redefined horror for a generation. Together they dig into the film’s scrappy origins, the ingenious use of found footage to build dread, and how Oren Peli’s minimalist approach reshaped studio thinking about what a blockbuster could be.From its DIY filmmaking roots to its massive cultural impact, the conversation examines why Paranormal Activity remains one of the most effective and influential horror movies of the 2000s — and how it kicked off a wave of imitators that could never quite match its eerie simplicity.If you want to watch the full video of this conversation, hear bonus episodes, and access exclusive mini-series and behind-the-scenes content, join the Podcast Like It’s Patreon community for all that and more. 👻 👉 patreon.com/PodcastLikeIts
64: Wit with Eliza Clark
01:42:16|Phil and Emily continue their deep-dive into Mike Nichols’ work from the 2000s with Wit , the acclaimed HBO adaptation of Margaret Edson’s Pulitzer Prize–winning play. Joined by writer and producer Eliza Clark (Y: The Last Man, Animal Kingdom), they explore how Nichols recalibrated his directorial voice after What Planet Are You From? with this intimate, emotionally devastating story of a scholar facing terminal illness.The conversation digs into the film’s powerful performances led by Emma Thompson and the delicate balance Nichols strikes between theatricality and cinematic storytelling. Together, they unpack Wit’s themes of mortality, intellect, vulnerability, and humanity, while tracing how this project set the stage for his monumental follow-up, Angels in America.If you want access to full video episodes, exclusive bonus content, and more conversations like this one, head over to our Patreon and join the community today.
63: What Planet Are You From? with Emma Stefansky
01:27:16|Phil and Emily kick off a brand-new miniseries exploring the films and television of legendary director Mike Nichols in the 2000s. First up: the notorious 2000 sci-fi romantic comedy “What Planet Are You From?”, starring Gary Shandling, Annette Bening, and John Goodman.Joined by critic and returning guest Emma Stefansky, the trio dive deep into this infamous box-office bomb unpacking its chaotic tone, lack of internal logic, and bizarre premise about an alien sent to Earth to impregnate a woman. They discuss how the film reflects a turning point for Nichols, why it derailed Gary Shandling’s movie career, and what it reveals about Hollywood’s early-2000s obsession with “blank check” comedies.From alien sex jokes to comedy-career implosions, this episode is a hilarious, insightful breakdown of one of the strangest films of the decade and the perfect start to our Mike Nichols retrospective.