Leaving Eden Podcast

In today's episode, Sadie tells us all about Hyles-Anderson College, the fundamentalist cult bible college that she enrolled in as an 18-year-old. We discuss the reason why a cult would want to have a college, the history of the school, what gets taught in classes at Hyles-Anderson, the school rules, and the predatory financial programs the school uses to keep students from dropping out or leaving.02:00 - What do they teach you at cult college?02:30 - Marriage and Motherhood degree02:52 - Join the Patreon for all of the bonus content!03:36 - Why do cults need a college?04:30 - Hyles-Anderson College04:53 - Listen to Sadie's interview on Preacher Boys Podcast with Eric Skwarczynski05:05 - Jack Hyles05:25 - Russell Anderson05:55 - Other Christian Colleges were TOO SOFT06:05 - Fundamentalism youth pipeline06:50 - Boot Camp for Christian workers08:15 - Business model of Hyles-Anderson College10:00 - The IFB connection to the unjustified killing of Breonna Taylor10:15 - HAC is unaccredited15:47 - Thank you to all of our patrons!17:12 - What is in the curriculum?17:40 - YOUR BODY IS NOT YOUR OWN BY JOBETH HOOKER21:40 - Scum Manifesto22:20 - Christian Womanhood23:12 - Preparation for Marriage Class23:40 - David and Jonathan24:20 - Give your husband a standing ovation when he comes home or he will cheat on you with his secretary26:54 - Other classes at cult college27:30 - HAC is basically Sea Org/Scientology28:40 - Bible Class30:13 - Steven Anderson and the NIFB32:45 - The rules of cult college34:35 - Dress Code38:40 - Demerit system38:55 - Tiered justice system and nepotism39:40 - Sadie almost got expelled!41:40 - How are the rules enforced?42:10 - The Jericho Plan42:55 - This scheme is probably illegal43:50 - The Bait and Switch

Today, Gavi FINALLY gets to talk about his favorite topic, Jean Beaudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," which explains Hyperreality. "The Matrix" film is allegorical to the postmodern condition of Hyperreality. We discuss examples of simulacra, Hyperreality, and the history of how we (in the western canon) came to view the world this way. We discuss simulated reality as it relates to christian fundamentalism and the US.If you have any thoughts, opinions, or questions about this topic (or corrections) please let us know either by comment or by emailing us at LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com! We would love to do a listener responses episdoe!02:00 - Intro02:20 - Black Mirror San Junipero03:15 - The Matrix03:30 - Elon Musk03:48 - Mark Zuckerberg and the Metaverse04:10 - Please subscribe to our Patreon!04:40 - Media Theory and Philosophy05:17 - I'm sorry for mixing up SimulaCRA and SimulaCRUM05:47 - Jean Baudrillard's "Hyperreality"06:04 - Simulacra and Simulation07:10 - First Order Simulacrum07:40 - Second Order Simulacrum07:55 - Third Order Simulacrum, Hyperreality08:29 - Fourth Order Simulacrum, or Pure Simulation08:50 - Alexander Hamilton to Scamilton is Hyperreality11:07 - Christian Nationalism and Hyperreality12:54 - Hyperreality and Pure Simulation are curated reality13:30 - Did Sadie grow up in a simulation?13:50 - Kim Kardashian's butt broke the internet14:54 - The 6 7 meme is proof that we are living in a simulation15:30 - Doot Doot 6 7 by Skrilla15:50 - Lamello Ball16:00 - The 6 7 kid is Hyperreality and the meme is pure simulation17:19 - Brainrot is hyperreality18:50 - Thank you to our patrons!20:17 - The Civil War and the birth of Modernism21:50 - Modernist themes, truth comes from struggle and effort22:17 - Upton Sinclair, The Jungle22:30 - John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath22:50 - Gone With the Wind24:00 - Little Women24:34 - The Civil War, Transcendentalism, Naturalism25:05 - The birth of postmodernism25:15 - Dada art movement (dadaism)25:26 - Anything can be a source of truth25:30 - The gifts of postmodernism, Civil rights, LGBT rights, Women's Lib movement25:55 - World War 2 and the nuclear age27:10 - Love is Blind, Kobe Bryant, Fresh off the Boat, Scottish Independence referendum28:45 - Absurdism, Memes, and Breadtube Spongebob29:04 - The drawbacks of postmodernism30:00 - Hyperreality, 9/1131:22 - Loss of sense of self32:04 - Michael Jackson, Prince, Robin Williams, George Carlin, Jesus, AI Deepfakes32:35 - Leonard Cohen32:50 - Bag Culture, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Jason Kelce, Commercials34:35 - Prince Harry and Meghan Markle36:28 - Please email us!37:01 - Our current state of Hyperreality37:31 - Doctors vs. Anti-Vaxxers and influencers37:41 - Teachers vs. Homeschoolers38:07 - Doomerism38:17 - It's going to be OK?38:38 - The early church38:50 - Jesus was a guy (probably?)39:11 - The Disciples (first order Simulacrum)39:22 - The Council of Nicaea (Second order Simulacrum)39:40 - Church Tradition (Third Order Simulacra, or Hyperreality)40:10 - Culture War/Kid Rock Turning Point USA halftime show40:45 - Growing up in a cult vs. growing up in a simulation41:04 - Destruction of the 2nd Temple happened, Revelation is a first order simulacrum41:35 - Millerism, Adventism, Premillennial Pretribulationism are second order simulacra41:45 - Protocols of the elders of Zion, A Thief in the Night, and Left Behind are all third order simulacra or Hyperreality42:12 - The Holocaust, McCarthyism and the Red Scare, Satanic Panic, Q Anon, January 6, 2025 Rapture Hoax, are mass delusion brought on by pure simulation44:20 - Hyperreality peaked in 202044:45 - The end of COVID-19 and the rise of AI45:04 - What is coming next?45:45 - AI CEOs are grifters46:32 - Minor League Baseball47:10 - 2020, Social Unrest, George Floyd protests, Anti-Mask/Vaxx48:14 - Transcendentalism, Naturalism, humanity's relationship with nature, Oliver Wendel Holmes, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman50:29 - The next movement

In this episode, Sadie takes us through two different theories of truth, and what it means for a statement to be true or not true. In using these two theories of truth, we discuss how anti-trans crusaders like Matt Walsh or Christian fundamentalist biblical literalists use bait-and-switch tactics to distort what their followers perceive as the truth. These bad faith arguments can be avoided by avoiding circular logic traps.00:00 - Intro00:47 - Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast is where the bonus content is!01:30 - Is a hot dog a sandwich?01:50 - We support trans people02:05 - What is a post-truth society?02:20 - Authoritarian populists like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin03:00 - Postmodernism03:44 - The Philosophical Definition04:39 - What is a woman?05:00 - Caitlyn Jenner05:30 - The correspondence theory of truth06:45 - The coherence theory of truth08:30 - Thank you to our wonderful patrons!10:00 - Truth conforms to the entire ecosystem of other things that are true10:10 - What is a sandwich?10:54 - Matt Walsh argues in bad faith12:45 - Bioessentialist transphobia does not hold up to scrutiny13:22 - The King James Bible15:15 - Hateful comments on social media16:10 - The Bible is true because the bible says that the bible is true16:20 - Cult control tactics and brainwashing19:30 - Atheism vs. Religion debate20:00 - Is personal experience evidence?20:55 - Realism and Anti-Realism22:22 - anti-realism23:58 - Big questions24:38 - Color theory25:18 - Berlin and Kay's theory of Basic Color Terms26:58 - WHAT COLOR IS SADIE'S HAIR?28:27 - Sadie is the proof30:03 - John Calvin profile pic30:53 - Sadie once had a man31:08 - Capitalism is the root of all christian misogyny (not actually)33:38 - What is proof?36:04 - Are we living in a simulation?

In this episode, Sadie takes us through the bizarre reasoning behind Fundamentalism's stipulation that the King James version is NOT ONLY the "best" version of the bible in English, but that it is actually not a translation, but God's own words, just as valid as the original texts in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. We also discuss how this belief leads to other fundie beliefs like quiverfull, and women wearing only skirts and no pants.Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast!Join our discord server!https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit!Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialTikTok:@LeavingEdenPodcast@SadieCarpenter1Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/

In this episode, we review "Dating With a Purpose," which is an IFB purity culture dating manual targeted at teens and young adults in the IFB and at Hyles-Anderson college. It was written by Jack Schaap, who later went to prison for sexually abusing a child who was a student at the high school where he was chaplain.We also discuss Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family's appearance in the Epstein files, and why abusers love purity culture so much.Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast!Join our discord server!https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit!Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialTikTok:@LeavingEdenPodcast@SadieCarpenter1Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/

Sadie Carpenter tells us all about Soul Winning, the IFB practice of knocking on doors in order to witness to people and to get them to join your church. She tells us stories of trapping kids in the McDonald's PlayPlace, getting guns pulled on her, and we read through a soulwinning textbook that teaches how to witness to a Jewish person! We hope you enjoy!Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social TikTok: @LeavingEdenPodcast @SadieCarpenter1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/

In this episode, we discuss what the early church actually was, and how Christianity was formed as much by Paul as it was by Jesus.Citations for claims about the authorship of the bible:Tabor, J. D. (2013). Paul and Jesus: how the Apostle transformed Christianity. Simon & Schuster.Tabor, J. (2025, June 10). The quest for the historical paul. Biblical Archaeology Society. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/

In this episode we discuss the history of (small f) fundamentalism and how it became (capital F) Fundamentalism that we see today.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel!https://www.youtube.com/@leaving_edenJoin our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJuJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social@hellyeahsadie.bsky.social@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/