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San Francisco Real Estate: Escrow Out Loud

One Community Activist & Four REALTORS® Discuss Racism

Season 5, Ep. 109
Episode 109 Panelists, listed alpha by last name:


Dena Aslanian-Williams

Realtor Extraordinaire. Don't let this short bio fool you, she's a phenomenal REALTOR! with Compass Real Estate at the time of publication.


Kevin Birmingham

Founder, Park North Real Estate

A west-side San Francisco native, Kevin is a Past President (2018) of the San Francisco Association of Realtors, the founder of Park North Real Estate, and has consistently performed in the top 1% of agents nationwide. Kevin has a degree in economics from Colorado State University, raising three kids in the city with his wife Terra. When not rabble-rousing for a fairer city, Kevin is a huge Bay Area sports fan and can be found out walking the family dog.


Tia Hunnicutt

Married for 30 years, mother of three.

*Licensed as a Broker since 2009

*Past President of the Oakland Association of Realtors

*Immediate Past Chair of Bridge MLS

*CAR Region 6 Chair

*CAR Executive Committee

*Coldwell Banker International President's Circle

*Coldwell Banker Global Luxury

*NAR certifications and designations: Accredited Buyer Representative, E-Pro, Pricing Strategy Advisor, Short-Sales and Foreclosures Resource, Seniors Real Estate Specialist, At Home with Diversity, Certified Luxury Home Marketing Specialist



Dr. Veronica Hunnicutt

Community Advocate and Activist

Former Educator at San Francisco Unified School District (in the Engineering and English Departments)

Former Educator and Administrator at City College of San Francisco (English Department/Chair of African American Studies/Dean of the Southeast Campus/Dean of the Office of Student Affairs)

Former Member of the Mayor's Citizens Advisory Committee for Community Development

Commissioner on the Commission on the Status of Women

Commissioner on the San Francisco Housing Authority

Chair, Minnie and Lovie Park CRC ( Parks and Recreation site)

Founding Board Member, Alliance for Girls

Chair, Citizens Advisory Committee for the Shipyard

CEO, HG Inc. 

Recipient of various Community Awards and Commendations

Proud Mother of Tia Hunnicutt

Allen M. Okamoto

Broker/Owner, T. Okamoto & Co. 

GRI, SRES, CIPS CRB, CRS

We are a small boutique real estate brokerage in San Francisco's Japantown. Although our primary market is Japanese we service almost all of the Bay Area Counties. We specialize in single family homes, condos and small apartments. We also have a very active property management department.

Over the past 30 plus years I have been involved in fair housing and diversity issues at the San Francisco, California and National Association of Realtors. At SFAR I formed the Asian Council which made the association a more friendly place for Asians to express their collective views. I was the first elected member of the board of directors and the first Asian President of the Board.

At the California Association of Realtors, I founded the International Forum where Realtors could explore opportunities in foreign countries and to learn about their customs and cultures. I also chaired the Equal Opportunity Cultural Diversity committee.

At the National Association of Realtors, I was on the work force that developed the "AT Home with Diversity" designation. I was the Chair of the Fair Housing Forum and the first chair of the Equal Opportunity committee.

In 2003 I was part of the group that formed the Asian Real Estate Association of America AREAA, the first national Asian real estate organization. We now have over 17,000 members and 42 chapters across the United States and Canada. We are the largest Asian membership organization in the United States.

I currently serve on the California Association of Realtors Fair Housing & Diversity Task Force. 



An Apology From the National Association of REALTORS® for our past discriminatory behavior at the National board level.



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