Fintech Impact


Collage with Peter Demangos (Co-Founder)| EP16

Ep. 16

This is the 16th episode of the Fintech Impact podcast, and Jason Pereira interviews Peter Demangos, the Co-Founder of Collage, a human resources benefits technology platform that works in tandem with broker partners. Peter explains how Collage was created, the ways in which it is pushing technology in the financial advisement and human resources spaces, forward, and the ways they plan to scale.

●     01:06 – Collage aims to assist mid-sized companies in Canada with 200 employees or less, but the average tends to be 20-100 employees.

●     02:28 – Peter’s original passion began with health and wellness at the corporate level that led him to the benefits space.

●     03:18 – PDF Employee Benefits that focuses on health and dental is a company that Peter started and which he still runs today.

●     08:09 – Collage works with all of the insurance companies across Canada.

●     11:21 – The Collage team has been complimentary with each partner bringing vital skills to the table. Fund-raising, hiring and figuring out the right process were extensive and intensive procedures.

●     15:11 – The reaction from advisors in the benefits space was a lot of questions, but also a lot of support.

●     23:39 – Collage is between 30-35 employees now, with their headquarters in Toronto and a support and sales team in Montreal.

●     25:50 – There are about 20,000 employees on the platform, the average customer is around 40-50 employees.

●     26:41 – The more noise in the space is bitter-sweet. Customers realize they need to take action and competitors add clutter for customers to sift through.

●     28:10 – Peter is excited about advisors that don’t add value phasing out and seeing the ample opportunities to assist the strong and committed advisors.

3 Key Points:

1. Collage solves all of the HR, payroll, benefit, and administrative related tasks for small to id-sized businesses.

2. Collage is between 30-35 employees now, with their headquarters in Toronto and a support and sales team in Montreal.

3. There are about 20,000 employees on the platform, the average customer is around 40-50 employees.

Tweetable Quotes:

-     “Collage is an all-in-one HR platform built specifically for the mid-sized market in  

       Canada. For us, mid-sized means 200 employees and below.” – Peter Demangos.

-     “The reality is the more noise breaks the feeling of customers, now they recognize

      that they need to do something about their HR. ” – Peter Demangos.

-     “I’m very proud of the advisory space that we have in Canada, and the relationships 

      and the trust that exists between clients and the advisor.” – Peter Demangos.

Resources Mentioned:

LinkedIn – Jason Pereira’s LinkedIn

Facebook – Jason Pereira’s Facebook

Woodgate Financial – Website for Woodgate Financial

LinkedIn – Peter Demangos’s LinkedIn page

Collage – Website for Collage

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Open Banking 3: Canada with Ben Harrison, Andrew Moor, & Daniel Eberhard | E161

Ep. 161
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Open Banking 2: U.S. with Frederik Mennes, John Pitts, & Yoseph West | E160

Ep. 160
In this 160th episode of Fintech Impact, Jason Pereira, award-winning financial planner, university lecturer, writer, and host interviews Frederik Mennes (OneSpan), John Pitts (Plaid), & Yoseph West (Relay) to discuss the state of Open Banking in the United States!Episode Highlights:● 0:50 – John Pitts introduces himself and Plaid.● 1:32 – Yoseph West introduces himself and Relay.● 2:08 – Frederik Mennes introduces himself and OneSpan.● 3:22 – What is the state of affairs in the US for Open Banking right now?● 5:52 – Frederik addresses the fundamental differences between the US and Europe in their approaches to Open Banking.● 7:00 – How has the state of regulations in the US impacted Relay’s growth?● 8:30 – What are the incentives and motivations for Plaid’s clients on the bank side?● 11:34 – Frederick shares about OneSpan’s client education around security in Open Banking.● 13:30 – John explains why he thinks that regulations are not as vital as some might think.● 16:47 – What is going right and what needs to be fixed in the US situation?● 24:49 – How do US companies regulate the risk of moving to APIs?● 27:46 – Is it reasonable to draw a compliance line for customers with a certain value of assets?● 29:48 – Jason and Frederick weigh the risk vs. reward of Open Banking for smaller banks.● 31:39 – How much pushback does John see from Plaid’s screen scraping guidelines?● 36:08 – Where does Yoseph feel constrained in the current system?● 41:00 – Everyone shares the one key thing that they believe the US Open Banking system should focus on moving forward.3 Key Points1. While the US finds itself years ahead of Europe on the practice of Open Banking, it finds itself an equal amount behind Europe on regulations.2. Open Banking companies in the US face the challenge of switching over to Application Programming Interfaces (APIs) without risking data and client rights.3. Screen scraping, or consumer data extraction for automation of previously-manual actions, is still allowed under PSD2. It has actually been updated in its security measures.Tweetable Quotes:● “It’s no secret that Europe has been pretty much at the forefront of the Open Banking initiatives around the world through initiatives such as PSD1 and PSD2.” – Jason Pereira● “To actually deliver true open banking, the dream that we all think of...I think that’s a dream that will only exist as a result of Challenger or Neobanks.” – Yoseph West● “At this point, regulation is actually very helpful to create a level playing field for security. Regulation can help to make sure that all the players in the ecosystem...implement the right security technology.” – Frederik Mennes● “The key thing that makes the US market special is that it is being driven by consumer demand.” – John PittsResources Mentioned:● Facebook – Jason Pereira’s Facebook● LinkedIn – Jason Pereira’s LinkedIn● – Sign up for Jason Pereira’s newsletter● – Website for Woodgate Financial● Plaid – Website for Plaid● OneSpan – Website for OneSpan● Relay – Website for Relay

Open Banking 1: Europe with Hesus Inoma & Daniel Döderlein | E159

Ep. 159
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