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E227 - Liam Forde from The Zone

Season 1, Ep. 227

On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by his coach, Liam Forde, Founder and CEO of The Zone.


Hear them discuss:

03:00 - How Jason first met Liam and began coaching with him

05:20 - Liam’s views on when strict coaching models may or may not work

06:30 - How to motivate employees without anger, and why clarity and responsibility matter

09:20 - How Jason’s coaching helped him shift from an “angry coach” approach

11:00 - The concept of “flow” and why rest is crucial to reach a flow state

12:20 - Why balance between work intensity and mental relaxation improves productivity

14:40 - Jason’s shift in perspective on health and wellness after working with Liam

20:10 - How Liam encouraged Jason to prioritize health through gentle accountability

24:00 - Balancing the demands of being a CEO with family life, and the impact on productivity

30:10 - Jason’s reflections on how being a CEO impacts his employees and their families

33:30 - The “superpowers” and challenges different types of CEOs typically face

36:00 - The ripple effects of a CEO’s energy and attitude on company culture





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