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How to have tough conversations about racism featuring Indigenous educators Kelly Brownbill and Madelaine McCracken
Anti-Indigenous racism is built into the foundation of Canada. The more truthfully we face that fact, the better we can take up our ongoing obligation to combat it (if you’re non-Indigenous, like me, I’m looking at you).
But when it comes to having conversations about Canada’s colonial past and present, it can be hard to know where to start. I asked two educators to join me today, who each have expertise in doing this with different audiences.
Our first guest is Kelly Brownbill, who teaches workshops with the goal of healthy, equitable relationships between Indigenous and non-Indigenous people and communities. Our second guest is Madelaine McCracken from the First Nations Child & Family Caring Society, whose work is geared towards children. Between the two of them, I hope you get lots of actionable takeaways today.
- Kelly Brownbill’s Website
- First Nations Child and Family Caring Society
- Educational Resources on the FN Caring Society website
- GoodMinds.com First Nations, Métis and Inuit Books
- Assembly of First Nations : Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery
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