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The deep secret of Abba’s “music without nostalgia” and the time they met the Pistols
Abba’s biographer Jan Gradvall met and interviewed Abba many times and builds a fresh picture of their internal chemistry in his new book Melancholy Undercover. Highlights of this illuminating pod include …
… how Sweden rejected their early hits for not being sufficiently “socialist”.
…. the discomfiting early life of Anni-Frid Lyngstad.
… what Max Martin and Denniz Pop thought made Abba’s music so durable.
… Strindberg, Bergman, the climate, the eight months of darkness and the role of melancholia in Swedish pop culture.
… the influence of the Human League on their later catalogue.
… why manager Stig Anderson “became a burden”.
… “Norway has Grieg, Finland has Sibelius, Sweden has Benny …”
… the first band to write about divorce.
… the Abba song with 57 chords and the only two samples Abba ever approved.
… Elvis Costello, Joe Strummer and Ian Dury backstage at a 1979 London show.
… when Sid Vicious ran into Abba at an airport on the Pistols’ 1977 Swedish tour.
… the role of the Lionesses football team, Kurt Cobain, Erasure, U2, Madonna and the Sydney gay community in the Abba revival.
… why the Abbatars are better than Abba.
… the myth of Agnetha as “the Greta Garbo of Pop”.
… and why The Day Before You Came is more than the Abba swansong.
Order Melancholy Undercover here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-ABBA-Melancholy-Undercover/dp/0571390986
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773. Why Oasis were God’s gift to the rock press and the story of two missing teeth
41:58||Ep. 773Liam Gallagher calls Ted Kessler and Hamish MacBain “the Peter Cook and Dudley Moore of music journalism”. Both worked at the NME (and Ted at Q), both interviewed the band many times and have just published ‘A Sound So Very Loud’ which, in the grand tradition of Revolution In The Head, tells the story of every Oasis song ever recorded. They talk to Mark here about … … why Oasis struck such an almighty chord and were the band the press were waiting for. … their dismantling of the notion of rock stardom. … “a visceral dislike”: why they were so socially divisive in the ‘90s. … Liam “waking up in police custody with two missing teeth”. … the Gallaghers’ dependable flair for the Smiths-style “performative interview” and why it sold the rock press. … what Noel stole from Tony Blair’s maiden speech for the lyrics of Magic Pie. … the turning point in the shift in the brothers’ powerbase. … Liam and the invention of “Stillism”. … “70 per cent of a band is the singer’s identity”. … Noel’s blog and Liam’s Twitter and how the split might have been avoided if their debate hadn’t been played out in public. … Supersonic, Cigarettes and Alcohol and the admirable honesty of Noel’s “brazen theft”. … how Stop Crying Your Heart Out became an X-Factor standard. … and the 5am Liam Gallagher social media publicity machine. ‘A SOUND SO VERY LOUD’ BY TED KESSLER AND HAMISH MACBAINPreorder link here!: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/ted-kessler/a-sound-so-very-loud/9781035078257Find out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear772. Elkie Brooks once opened for the Beatles. A lot happened in the next 65 years …
25:03||Ep. 772Elkie Brooks was on a package tour aged 15, supported the Beatles and the Animals, made a single when she was 19, joined the jazz-rock Dada, then Vinegar Joe (with Robert Palmer) and has since made 20 albums. She’s now out on her ‘Long Farewell Tour’ and looks back with us here from her home in Devon at … … supporting the Beatles in ’64 and an audience already screaming for the headliners. … memories of Dusty, Cilla and Maggie Bell and how few girl singers there were in the ‘60s and ‘70s. … singing Cliff Richard’s ‘Pointed Toe Shoes’, aged 15, at the Don Arden talent show that won her a tour with Conway Twitty and Wee Willie Harris. … supporting the Animals at the Paramount, New York. … the male-weighted music world and how long it took to win any respect. … seeing Ella Fitzgerald when she was 12 and being fired up by the range and phrasing of Billie Holiday. … what she learnt from Humphrey Lyttelton and Eric Delaney. … life on the scampi-in-the-basket cabaret circuit as a teenager. … trying to keep Vinegar Joe together after Robert Palmer left. Book tickets to the Long Farewell Tour here: https://www.elkiebrooks.com/771. Why they MUST make the Cat Stevens movie + rock feuds, the best video & Beyoncé in a Stetson
45:43||Ep. 771Facing down the leg spinners of rock and roll news while trying to wallop the odd shot across the pavilion roof. On the scoreboard this week … … has there ever been a rock feud as bitter as Trump v Musk? … what Ray Charles, Taylor Swift and Dave Clark have in common. … the 30-year golden age music video. … things Van Morrison can’t forget. … how some songs about lying in hammocks necking cocktails ended up worth $275m. … Beyoncé, Stetsons, pink Cadillacs and how all visiting American acts bring with them the aura of America. … the greatest and most influential video ever made. … the song Carly Simon wrote about Cat Stevens. … “Avoid cliches like the plague. (They're old hat.)” … Nick Mason’s menagerie: things your teenage self never imagined would happen. … Kraft Cheese slices, Kylie videos, the cut above David Beckham’s eye and other things labelled ‘iconic’. … and Birthday guest Paul Thompson’s night at the Music Video Preservation Society!Find out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear770. Stuart Maconie – every character in the Beatles’ story has a story of their own
46:49||Ep. 770Stuart Maconie – broadcaster, prolific author – has a brilliant and original new perspective on the Beatles. His latest book With A Little Help From Their Friends identifies the 100 people who had the greatest impact on their story, from the inner circle to bit-part players – schoolfriends, girlfriends, managers, muses, support acts, advisors and exploiters. It’s immensely entertaining – and revealing, even for obsessives like us. Look out for these in particular … … memories of his Mum taking him to see the Beatles in Wigan when he was three. … the Shakespearian supporting cast – “we know the Othellos and King Lears but there are a lot of Rosencrantz and Guildensterns” such as Marsha Albert, Melanie Coe, Pablo Fanque, Mr Mustard and the night with the poet Royston Ellis that inspired Polythene Pam. … villains of the piece who might have been misunderstood like the Maharishi and Allen Klein. … what Derek Taylor shouted at Peter Blake at the Q Awards. … the full extent of the Beatles’ American merchandise catastrophe. … the “moving and spooky” sensation of standing on the spot in Woolton where John and Paul first met - and its repercussions. … the Sliding Doors moments and why no other band merits this kind of depth and detail. … the hoary redundant old saw about John v Paul – “guerilla genius v slick vaudevillian” and how Peter Jackson’s Get Back made us all fall in love with them even harder and deeper than before..… the regrettable question he asked McCartney about Gerry & the Pacemakers. … the tragedy of Jimmie Nicol – “being a member of the Beatles, even briefly, was the nearest equivalent to going to the Moon”. … the impact of Paul’s life with the Ashers on the band’s intersections with art, theatre and poetry. … how the ‘Oldies But Goldies’ album broke the band beyond the Iron Curtain. .. why Penny Lane is like a Play for Today. … and the greatest song the Beatles recorded. Order With A Little Help From Our Friends here: https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/with-a-little-help-from-their-friends-the-beatles-changed-the-world-but-who-changed-theirs-stuart-maconie?variant=54870051815803Find out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear769. Inside the world of reissues with producer Rob Caiger
46:50||Ep. 769Rob Caiger is one of those special people who turned their teenage obsession with music into a job … from being the only one in ELO’s office who knew where the old tapes were … to learning that what it says on the outside of the box isn’t always what’s on the tape … through embarking on a ten-year project to put out the last Small Faces album from 1970 in its proper form … via blindfolded journeys to mysterious destinations with the promise of finding some long-lost jewels … and hearing a Rolling Stones out-take bleeding through a multi-track by the Move … through the vault under Smithfield Market out of which tapes would sometimes emerge covered in blood … to preparing for a future where nobody who was there will be able to explain how and why things were recorded … this is the world as seen by the remarkably dedicated people who put together the box sets we all hanker for. The Small Faces: The Autumn Stone record and CD - https://www.thesmallfaces.com/shop/Find out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear768. Genuinely ‘iconic’ rock pictures, words we should ban and how Freddie Mercury still makes headlines
48:57||Ep. 768Hoary old tales retold – ideally in an Irish accent - and new ones prized from the giddy carousel of rock and roll news which, this week, features … … was there a better stage name than Rick Derringer? … Linda Ronstadt, Ronnie Spector, Sister Rosetta Tharpe and other new biopics under construction. … genuinely ‘iconic’ rock images – the Ziggy lightning stipe, Johnny Cash at San Quentin, Elvis dancing in Jailhouse Rock, Dylan and Suze Rotolo in Jones Street … … our old pal Barry McIlheney, his Belfast band Shock Treatment and the time he asked U2 to draw a duck. … the thin wall that separates hilarity and grief. … how TikTok and a 1962 B-side booted the 87-year old Connie Francis. … Banned words! – ‘iconic, circle back, reach out, Ramones-esque, eponymous sophomore effort’ and other clichés that MUST be banished! … “Sgt Pepper: it’s like the Beatles on acid!” … why 80 per cent of the stadium experience is beyond our control. ... how Freddie Mercury still makes headlines beyond the grave. … the real Rikki in ‘Rikki Don’t Lose that Number’. … and when you find yourself at a Springsteen gig next to a Trump supporter. Watch the Barry McIlheney podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjw-6HZWa-EFind out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear767. Martha Wainwright - ‘never nervous, always ballsy’ and onstage from the age of eight
24:27||Ep. 767Martha Wainwright is a key member of the Wainwright/McGarrigle clan, all of them big favourites of ours. She’s currently on her 20th anniversary tour and looks back here at the first shows she ever saw and played which involves … … growing up in a folk dynasty in Montreal. … the sight of Perla Batalla and Julie Christensen, backing singers on Leonard Cohen’s I’m Your Man tour, “who made me want to be onstage too”. … the story of ‘Matapedia’, the song Kate McGarrigle wrote when an old boyfriend thought she was her teenage daughter. … her first shows playing Elvis, Dylan and Woody Guthrie songs on the coffeehouse circuit. … singing with her brother Rufus and her cousins with Kate & Anna McGarrigle at folk festivals. … onstage at the Roches’ Christmas shows in New York. … the time her brother stole the show over Emmylou Harris: “I thought I want that kind of attention!” … seeing Pink Floyd’s The Wall in a Montreal hockey stadium, aged 9 – “a very marking experience”. … the songs of her mother’s she always plays: “I’m obsessed with her legacy”. Martha Wainwright 20th Anniversary tour tickets here: https://marthawainwright.com/showsFind out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear766. Budgie of Siouxsie And The Banshees started out in nightclub cabaret acts, aged 13
41:27||Ep. 766Small boy begins breeding budgerigars in Liverpool, makes enough to buy a drum kit and becomes the power behind Big In Japan, the Slits, the Creatures and Siouxsie and the Banshees. And one half of punk rock’s most famous couples. The immensely engaging Budgie has finally written his memoir, ‘The Absence’, and talks to us from Berlin about … … are bands only as good as their drummers? … Siouxsie, the Ice Queen goth-in-waiting who was actually “a cackling crazy tomboy from Chiselhurst”. … playing Shadows instruments in a nightclub cabaret, aged 13. … the gnawing pain of not being asked to play Live Aid – “we just weren’t part of that all-pals-together-in-the-wonderful word of music”. … “World Exclusive!”: seeing Bill Nighy in a band in the ‘70s singing Rosalita. … the Apache and Wipeout drum patterns in the rhythms of the Slits and Banshees. … in praise of drummers: Bill Buford, Phil Collins, the Glitter Band, Humble Pie’s Jerry Shirley. … the peculiar world of the teenage budgerigar breeder. … the dynamic of the Slits – “Palmolive, off-the-scale crazy”. … ‘You're The Biggest Thing Since Powdered Milk’ by Burke Shelley’s Budgie, Humble Pie’s ‘Rockin’ the Fillmore’ and when you only have one cassette in your car and it’s ‘Wonderworld’ by Uriah Heep. … Siouxsie’s Jim Morrison fixation and lack of ambition. … the advantage of being in a band with a girl singer. … and the likelihood of a Banshees’ reunion. Order Budgie’s memoir ‘the Absence’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Absence-Memoirs-Banshee-Drummer/dp/1399621564Find out more about how to help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear765. Books rock stars want you to read, sacked drummers and how Dylan spent his birthday
38:14||Ep. 765The two-man pedalo of enquiry sets out on the Bank Holiday boating lake of news pausing to consider … … Florence Welch, Dua Lipa and the rise of the rock and roll book club. … the 92 year-old that Bob Dylan supported at the Cascades Amphitheatre, Ridgefield. … the Beatles had 18 drummers! … the sad end to Billy Joel’s tour schedule. … is Hollywood dead? … what’s your relationship with reading if your first experience of literature is dressing up as a wizard on World Book Day? … why is there something unfailingly comic about drummers being fired? … “No nudity! No voluminous outfits!”: Cannes new red carpet ruling. … is Chimes Of Freedom Bob Dylan at ‘peak wordage’? … are books and record sleeves the new antiques, items to furnish a room? … Sherlock Holmes, Hunter S Thompson: Corey Hart of Slipknot’s recommended reading. … and how Springsteen is taunting Trump. Plus Starry Eyed And Laughing, old drummer gags and who the hell’s seen Ne Zha 2 or Mickey 17?Help us to keep the conversation going by joining our worldwide Patreon community: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear