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How Springsteen went “six deep”, fictional rock hacks and who’s more conservative than Liam Gallagher?
You’ll always find us in the kitchen at parties, near the hoppy summer ale and sausage rolls and, and this week discussing …
… he hasn't changed his look or sound for 30 years: is there a more conservative concept than Liam Gallagher? And how he became the one-man Oasis.
… the eye-watering sum Kevin Hart made from Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle.
… Loudermilk, Rob Gordon in High Fidelity and other Rock Snob stereotypes in fiction - “I’m a Rock Snob? It comes with the territory being right!” And how rock critics are always cast as cynical, joyless curmudgeons.
… why Courteney Cox was chosen for the Dancing In The Dark video and how Springsteen turned live performance into spectacle.
… the diplomatic skills of A&R men in pursuit of hit singles.
… why Born In The USA was a masterclass in branding.
… the Word in Your Ear podcast and Taylor Swift, both up and running since 2006!
… plus Abba, Peter ‘King Mod’ Meaden, Jon Savage’s book on LGBTQ pop culture, Liam Gallagher’s hair and Springsteen’s dancing lessons.
Great clip of Steve Harley on Australian TV sent by listener Brian Nankervis …
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10154289171249235
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872. How the album survived and why it satisfies the soul!
38:46||Ep. 872The album has had 25 years of being hammered by other formats – Napster, iTunes, Spotify, TikTok – and not only survived but thrived. For Keith Jopling it’s the irreplaceable way to hear music and to measure the people who make it. His new book Body Of Work celebrates its battle-scarred trajectory from the beating heart of pop culture to 21st Century affordable luxury, and stops off at … … growing up in the age of cassettes … his lifelong devotion to a Police album left on his doorstep … Adele’s battle with Spotify to get records played in sequence … how albums are how you calibrate a career, from the Beatles to Taylor Swift … has anyone ever loved a CD the way they love an album? … how parents used to despair of their kids loafing in bedrooms listening to records but now try and persuade them to do it … pictures of equipment: rock porn! … the swingback to Listening Parties and analogue recording … records as shining examples of the packaged goods business … “we need to regain control of our attention” … and the iTunes launch party and why Smashing Pumpkins thought they’d seen the future. Order Body Of Work in the UK here: https://www.roughtrade.com/product/keith-jopling/body-of-work-how-the-album-outplayed-the-algorithm-and-survived-playlist-culture And in the USA here: https://repeaterbooks.com/product/body-of-work-how-the-album-outplayed-the-algorithm-and-survived-playlist-culture/Help us to keep the conversation going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear
871. Racy pulp paperbacks, teenage Joni and the BRIT School versus the age of the amateurs
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870. David Bowie and the triumph, mystery and struggle of his third act
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869. Days with Bowie, Prince, the Stones, Hendrix & the Clash by David Sinclair
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868. The genius of Sly Dunbar & Catherine O’Hara plus Springsteen’s anthem and old New York
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867. Adele Bertei, New York’s art-rock explosion and Eno’s shopping list
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866. Steve Lillywhite produced the Stones, U2, Siouxsie, XTC - ‘the last leg of the relay’
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865. Who’d be a nepo baby? plus the mystery album that outsold the Beatles
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864. Simon Nicol of Fairport Convention, back in the van with a bag of toffees
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