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Encountering the cheerful ping-pong bats of conversation this week you’ll find …
… the most unprepossessing rock band on God’s green earth.
… Ed Sheeran v Marvin Gaye – “the case continues”. But does anybody genuinely copy anyone else these days?
… Springsteen and Michelle Obama and their irresistible thirst for publicity.
… the return of the Stack Waddy game: Spencer Birtwistle? Wilfred Mott? … Bernard Cribbins sitcom character or former member of the Fall?
… Santana’s Caravanserai still sounds like it was made yesterday.
… what Paul McCartney and Coldplay were paid to play Glastonbury.
… if you tell people they’ll like things they tend to look for reasons to disagree but can we (cautiously) recommend the Australian comedy Colin From Accounts?
… Happy 70th, Bill Drummond. We remember his deafening ‘retirement’ exit at the BRITS in 1992 and his exotic activities since.
… the delicate rhythms of the funniest lines by PG Wodehouse.
… a chilling stat involving football academies.
… Harry Belafonte, the original “singer and activist”, and the time he was in a drama class with Walter Matthau and Marlon Brando.
… plus Shakespeare, a light-fingered Noel Gallagher and amplified busking.
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983. Dylan Jones, past master of the long lunch, saw the music world from a restaurant table
44:56||Ep. 983London restaurants were where musicians, actors, writers and TV stars were seen “and how you knew where they were in the days before social media”. They were a form of theatre with a shifting cast and a way of gauging celebrity status. Dylan Jones – who’s lunched long and hard in the heart of the media – sees that vanishing world as a measure of changing times and fashions in his toothsome new book ‘Table Hopping: the Secret History of London Restaurants’. And pulls up two chairs for us here to look back at …… the birth of pop culture at the Speakeasy, Ad Lib and the Bag O’ Nails… Hockney, Jagger, Lucian Freud, the Sex Pistols and Ian Dury’s public beef with Omar Sharif… “restaurants were about learning how to behave in public”… Jeffrey Archer and Michael Winner fighting over Lady Di’s table… Michael Caine and Peter Langan creating the first internationally known London restaurant… the agony of celebrity hierarchy: “the Beckhams couldn’t get the top table as it was reserved for Harold Pinter”… Alex James, Damien Hirst and Keith Allen’s “bar tab as long as a bog roll”… Malcolm McLaren’s doomed Hammer of the Gods movie with Daniel Day-Lewis as Plant, Gary Oldman as Page and Robbie Coltrane as Peter Grant… “AA Gill could close a restaurant”… Anthony Bourdain, Marco Pierre White and the rise of the rock’n’roll chefs… and how the ‘90s are the new ‘60s “where everyone felt they were in the Green Room”.Order copies of ‘Table Hopping’ here:https://www.waterstones.com/book/table-hopping/dylan-jones/9780349000725https://www.amazon.co.uk/Table-Hopping-Restaurants-Brasserie-Wolseley/dp/0349000727https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/table-hopping-the-secret-history-of-london-restaurants-from-langan-s-brasserie-to-the-wolseley-dylan-jones/2def4f36390c3026?
982. What’s at the heart of Indie Rock? – plus Bowie rebooted and Patrick Stewart RIP
53:32||Ep. 982‘To explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and civilizations and to boldly go where no podcasters have been before!’ Which this week involves …… the lost 1978 Bowie footage about to tour arenas… why Indie songs have such long intros… Jagger’s great-granddaughter is three years older than one of his sons?!… how Bill Wyman survived Brian Jones and the letter Jones sent Charlie asking him to join the band… when Patrick Stewart worked for the Dewsbury Reporter… what John Steinbeck wrote to Marilyn Monroe... the two covers of Beatles songs that are better than the originals… and the best gag ever printed in Viz.Plus the Cure, Ed Sheeran’s daughter Antarctica and birthday guest Giles Fraser.
981. Carl Palmer’s 64 years onstage and the ingenious way he’s touring as ELP
53:32||Ep. 981Whenever Carl Palmer joined a band, he was head-hunted by a bigger one - the King Bees, Chris Farlowe & the Thunderbirds, the Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Atomic Rooster and, eventually, Emerson Lake & Palmer. We get a vivid whirlwind tour here of six decades onstage – modest, very funny, barely pausing for breath – and a full account of how ‘An Evening with Emerson Lake & Palmer’ will work when he tours the show in 2027 (and the setlist). Tons of highlights, blink and you’ll miss them, these just a few …… “You can’t call the group Emerson Lake & Palmer! What if somebody leaves?”… playing jazz and cabaret from the age of 12 and memories of “formation dancing night”… the King Bees at a Birmingham All-Nighter with Chris Farlowe, Steampacket and “a few black bombers”.. the one-eyed bassist who drove the van… American 10,000-seaters with Arthur Brown… the Who in 1965 – “never seen anything like it!”… who owns the name Emerson Lake & Palmer?… the day he got a job for John Bonham… being choppered to the Isle of Wight in their stage gear... Vincent Crane sawing his Hammond in half… the ELP audition and “Ahmet Ertegun from NY” ringing to twist his arm… playing the Palladium where his grandpa conducted a Palm Court Orchestra… and drumming on a vegan diet.Mentioned in passing: Cozy Powell, Graham Bond, Erroll Garner, Oscar Peterson, Ginger Baker, Roy Orbison and Bruce Forsyth.Order ‘An Evening With ELP’ tickets here: https://crosstownconcerts.gigantic.com/carl-palmer-tickets
980. Joni Mitchell’s fascinating treasure trove of lost interviews with the BBC
37:10||Ep. 980Tom Hagler works at the BBC with access to every TV and radio programme involving Joni Mitchell for 50 years, all full of revelations about her songs and the times she spent in London. So he transcribed the interviews – even the bits off-camera - and talked to the people who’d watched them being recorded, now published as ‘River Of Words: Joni Mitchell At the BBC’. It’s full of fresh angles and good stories, like this podcast which touches on …… Joni living on cigarettes, coffee and chocolate in a Bayswater flat in 1968… early exposure by John Peel and on Stanley Dorfman’s pioneering ‘In Concert’ (she was the first guest!)… her complete transparency in interviews – “I felt like a cellophane wrapper on a pack of cigarettes”… the night she met Graham Nash… the BBC failing to exploit their 1990 ‘scoop’ about her giving away her daughter for adoption, and the moment she thinks she met her (aged 3)… how she held her own in the ‘70s rock Boys’ Club… “save something of yourself”: when Kris Kristofferson heard Blue… the Tracey MacLeod interview where she claims to be a reincarnated Arab rug dealer… and the value of Big Yellow Taxi in the climate crisis.Order copies of ‘River Of Words: Joni Mitchell at the BBC’ here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/River-Words-Joni-Mitchell-interviews/dp/1035435780
979. Which bands pass the three-year test? – plus the great live albums & rock stars’ alter egos
01:03:01||Ep. 979Stirring the spice-filled gumbo of news and turning the heat up. This week’s nutritious ingredients include …. … is everything better shorter?… the greatest opening line in a book ever written… did Tom Waits, Warren Zevon, Joe Cocker, the Bee Gees, Cheap Trick, Sam Cooke, Talking Heads or Bill Evans make the greatest live album of all time?… the worst beers Buster Poindexter ever had… rock stars’ alter egos – Lady Gaga as Jo Calderone, Andy Partridge as Sir John Johns, George Clinton as Mr Wiggles, Justin Hawkins as Sir Voltage Blackthorn!… Blur, Radiohead, Stones, Doors, Steely Dan, Bowie, Leonard Cohen … they all had a three-year golden streak… “I’m writing a short letter as I don’t have time to write a long one”… why the Matrix was a watershed moment … the three stages of success – getting known, the magnum opus, basking in the glow… and why we love August N'gutu Leibowitz-Clementine.Plus Ezra Pound, T.S. Eliot, Buckshot La Funke, birthday guest Phil Hopwood and how everyone at the BBC is a gossip.
978. Dexys, their hits and flops and how I survived them by Helen O’Hara
46:13||Ep. 978Helen’s violin at the start of Come On Eileen has filled a million wedding dancefloors. She was a member of Dexys Midnight Runners, later their musical director, at the boom time of Too Rye Ay (and its wobbly sequel) and captures the thrill of it all in her just-updated memoir, What’s She Like: A Violinist’s Tale. You’ll love this conversation - warm, candid, forgiving and touching on all the following …… the day the dungarees arrived… the tribal nature of bands… the social skills required in a group as tangled as Dexys who’d “go to the caff and just … not talk!"… what she learnt from the memorabilia found in her shed… the myth that she met Kevin Rowland at a bus-stop and her reinvention as “the belle from Ballymena” … working with Nicky Hopkins (“my hero”), Tom Dowd, Woody Woodmansey and Tanita Tikaram… Dexys studio method: “focus, discipline, tightness” and trying to record a 12-minute track in one take… hearing hits by Rod Stewart and Slade that featured violins… and her swansong: recording Because Of You for the TV sitcom Brush Strokes.Order copies of ‘What’s She Like’ here: https://www.route-online.com/all-books/whats-she-like
977. Nigel Dick shot videos for Band Aid, Guns N’Roses, Britney and Oasis by ‘failing upwards’
49:27||Ep. 977We first met Nigel Dick in the late ‘70s when he was the motorbike messenger for Stiff Records and watched him rocket to success in the video boom, directing career-launching clips for Guns N’Roses, Tears for Fears and Britney Spears and working with Cher, Joni Mitchell and McCartney, all recorded in his memoir ‘Music Video Mischief’. He looks back here on that big-budget golden age and the rise of the amateurs from his home in Colorado and stops off at …… ‘You have to work out where the power lies’… the story of the million dollar video… how he finally found the Axl Rose charisma… New Boots And Panties, ‘the most radical album to have that level of success’… Stiff’s ‘frightening, lovable, devious’ Dave Robinson, characteristics every label boss requires… ‘I’ll make sure you never work in this town again!’… why the 16 year-old (ex-Mickey Mouse Club) Britney Spears was born for video… working with his teenage heroes Yes: ‘the beautiful castles I’d built in my mind just collapsed to sand’… the rise of AI – ‘best to check people haven’t got six fingers and a changing haircut’… and working with McCartney, Cher, Band Aid, Oasis and Claude Van Damme.Order copies of ‘Music Video Mischief’ in the UK from: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/music-video-mischief-ozzy-to-britney-oasis-to-gn-r-mccartney-to-cher-a-lifetime-of-rock-and-chaos-nigel-dick/619386081ce90352?ean=9798999048783And in the U.S. from: https://www.trouserpressbooks.com
976. Tall stories about towering and tiny rock stars, ‘50s jazz and Mick Jagger’s gym shoes
49:48||Ep. 976Two fearless men journey to the Edge Of News so that you don’t have to. Some highlights of this week’s report …… when a gig’s all about the performer not the audience… the power of singing other people’s songs… can you ever trust a film critic?… what connects Richard Thompson, Neil Tennant, Loudon Wainwright and Randy Newman?… “bands can’t look like gangs if they’re not all the same height”… can you picture ‘50s jazz without cigarette smoke?… who – dear god – is “achingly cool” according to critics? Miles Davis? The Portico Quartet? Annie Lennox?!… should we call time on the ailing Mike Love?… biopics that can’t afford the music… why Robert Evans hated the American Graffiti soundtrack… people who perform sitting down… plus BB King, Jack Bruce, Philip Roth, Woody Guthrie, Woody Allen, James McMurtry and the 15-year old “Michael” Jagger’s gym shoes.
975. Another Word with … Richard Thompson: includes Fairport, Lennon, Schwarzenegger and a cast of thousands!
35:43||Ep. 975Richard Thompson has a new album, ‘Hippies, Thugs and Heroes’, and he’s touring again in 2027, the perfect excuse to get another of our favourite guests back in the chair again. He joins us here for a brilliant, free-wheeling conversation with a cast list including …Arnold Schwarzenegger (and his son Wolfie)William ShakespeareMandy MillerShostakovichFairport ConventionWilliam WaltonFelliniJohn LennonLouis ArmstrongPost-War Brighton gangstersNellie the ElephantLes PaulHarold PinterBooker T & the M.G.’sBix BeiderbeckeStephane GrappelliEnnio MorriconeJohn ColtraneDjango ReinhardtMy Fair Lady‘50s radio show Journey Into SpaceOnce Upon A Time In The West… his dad (a policeman) and his first girlfriend Deirdre.Order copies of ‘HIPPIES, THUGS AND HEROES’ here: http://newwst.com/hippiesAnd tickets here: https://www.richardthompson-music.com/tour-dates/