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The State of It

Keir Starmer resigns. Andy Burnham prepares for power

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Andy Burnham could be prime minister within weeks after Keir Starmer's resignation. He may now need to build a government before the World Cup final. This is where the real trade-offs start. How long can Andy Burnham's hopey, changey, Northern Soul vibes last in Downing Street? There's already an almighty row going on over who will be his chancellor.

Also today, where did all go wrong for Keir Starmer and what did Labour MPs think of his resignation speech?

Wes Streeting has said he will not contest Andy Burnham for the Labour leadership, but are there any other possible candidates for the leadership contest?


Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times


Executive producer: Molly Guinness

Producers: Harry Kitson, Euan Dawtrey


Picture credit: Getty Images

Audio: Reuters


00:00 — Starmer’s Resignation: The Total Lack of Contrition

00:48 — A Surreal Timeline: Six Prime Ministers in a Decade

01:56 — The Emotional Exit vs. The Bitter Backroom Reality

03:04 — Where It Went Wrong: Sins of Tone & Policy U-Turns

04:30 — The Brutal Verdict: "He Wasn't Up To It"

05:47 — Outsourcing Power: Sue Gray, McSweeney, and Rachel Reeves

08:46 — Enter Andy Burnham: Can He Rebrand the Labour Party?

11:36 — Ed Miliband vs. The Financial Markets

14:31 — Team Burnham's Impossible Economic Trade-offs

16:36 — Will the Gloss Wear Off? The Unforgiving Spotlight of No. 10

18:24 — Legitimacy Crisis: Nigel Farage Demands an Early Election

20:06 — The Whitehall Machine in Total Chaos

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