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Welcome to this special Off Air X Therapy Works crossover episode, celebrating Therapy Works joining The Times podcast family.


Julia joins Jane Garvey and Fi Glover from Off Air for a wide-ranging conversation about therapy, relationships and mental health. They discuss how to find a good therapist, whether therapy should have an end date, the value of the stiff upper lip and what to do when you find yourself overthinking at 3am. Julia also answers some of Jane and Fi’s listeners’ questions along the way.


Off Air with Jane & Fi is available wherever you get your podcasts.


If you’d like to send a question to Therapy Works, please email: jsamuelpod@gmail.com


Off Air Producer: Eve Salusbury

Therapy Works Producer: Georgie Rutherford

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