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Elisa Flores

Season 4, Ep. 4
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🎙️ Join us on the Shanny Pants Show Podcast as we sit down with the incredible Elisa Flores! Formerly devoted to La Luz del Mundo, Elisa courageously opens up about her journey of breaking free from the manipulative clutches of the cult.


In this gripping episode, Elisa shares the challenges she faced after escaping the isolating grip of the sect. Step by step, she reclaimed her freedom, bringing vibrant colors back into her life.


Tune in for a powerful conversation that sheds light on resilience, strength, and the indomitable human spirit. 🎧✨ Don't miss this inspiring episode of triumph over manipulation! 💪 #ShannyPantsShow #BreakFree #Resilience #Survivor #Inspiration ✨


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  • 14. Katherine Spearing

    01:06:49
    Katherine Spearing MA, CTRC is the founder of Tears of Eden, a nonprofit supporting survivors of spiritual abuse, and the host of Tears' affiliate podcast Uncertain. She also hosts the podcast Trauma & Pop Culture and is a Certified Trauma Recovery Coach working primarily with clients who have survived cults, high-control environments, spiritual abuse, and sexual abuse. She also provides specialized trauma informed career coaching, as folks with trauma often need extra support for interviewing and networking. Katherine is the author of a historical romantic comedy, Hartfords, a novel that challenges gender roles in a patriarchal society that will appeal to fans of Jane Austen. She has been a guest on a number of podcasts, including IndoctriNation and That’s So Fcked Up, is the author of several nonfiction articles, and writes regularly at katherinespearing.com and tearsofeden.org-〰️〰️Shanny 👖〰️〰️YouTubeFacebookInstagramTikTokwww.ShannyPantsShow.com
  • 13. Cait West

    58:13
    Cait was such a lovely guest! We have so much in common and I had to edit our talk down a ton because we chatted for such a long time. If you were a part of my cult/group, you will see lots of similarities in Cait's story. From Cait:When I left home at the age of twenty-five, I had no idea what my path would look like. I had no story to tell. I had spent my entire life in the Christian Patriarchy and Stay-at-Home-Daughter Movements, only to realize that I didn’t belong. My story had always been written for me, and now I was taking over the pen for the first time.In the words of Maya Angelou, “There is no greater agony than bearing an untold story inside you.”I used to think I could rewrite my whole life, come clean somehow, and pretend I never had a past of oppression and abuse. I didn’t want to be the victim, the pitied, the weak. But the years have taught me that there is no easy way to delete bitter memories or old scars. I can’t separate the good from the bad. So, I’m moving forward, not chained to the past, but liberated from it, carrying with me the old stories, if only as a preface to the new.After I got out, I studied creative writing and publishing at Michigan State University and served on the editorial team for Fourth Genre: Explorations in Nonfiction. My work has been featured in 3288 Review, Dunes Review, Fourth Genre, Hawai`i Pacific Review, The Revealer, and Religion Dispatches.I work full time as a book editor, and I also serve on the editorial board for Tears of Eden, a nonprofit providing resources for survivors of spiritual abuse, and cohost the podcast Survivors Discuss.My debut memoir, Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy, will be available on April 30, 2024.www.caitwest.com〰️〰️Shanny 👖〰️〰️YouTubeFacebookInstagramTikTokwww.ShannyPantsShow.com
  • 12. Eric Skwarczynski

    01:02:36
    Eric Skwarczynski Featured in Let us Prey Documentary Host, Preacher Boys PodcastEXPOSINGThe Preacher Boys podcast exists to shed a bright spotlight on the very real subject of mental, physical, and sexual abuse within Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) churches.While IFB churches do not have a monopoly on abuse – it is an undeniable problem within the movement and must be addressed.ENGAGINGThe Preacher Boys podcast exists to engage thoughtfully on the subject of abuse.The Preacher Boys podcast is not a satire site, nor is it a reflection of a personal vendetta against all who identify with the movement.We must look objectively at the issues at hand, using relevant data and dialoguing with survivors to better understand and deconstruct the religious sub-cultures that lend themselves to abuse.Every survivor's story is worthy to be told, and every survivor has equal value, regardless of their gender, ethnicity, current religious affiliation, sexual orientation, age, or any other factor.EQUIPPINGThe Preacher Boys Podcast exists not only to rally not only survivors and advocates now outside the movement, but also to spark a fire of change within – leading current congregants, leaders, and pastors to effect change in their own churches.Through interviews and contributed resources from trauma therapists, mental health experts, law enforcement, clergy, and other specialists, the Preacher Boys podcast should be a growing library of information for the pastor hoping to strengthen the security of their church, their capacity to minister to the hurting, and their ability to be what the church should have been – a place of refuge and safety.Find Eric HereInstagramFacebookPodcast〰️〰️Shanny 👖〰️〰️YouTubeFacebookInstagramTikTokwww.ShannyPantsShow.com
  • 11. Jon Snow and Shelly Snow Pordea Part TWO

    01:09:14
    ABOUT Jon Jon Snow is an actor and writer, but he is first and foremost the survivor of both a cult, and of sexual abuse. Raised primarily in St. Louis, Missouri, Jon ran away from home and the cult when he was just 17 years old, between his junior and senior year of high school. The cult, the sexual assault, and the physical abuse endured from his mother, left Jon feeling powerless. A young man without a voice. Not long after running away, acting came calling in the form of a mostly paid for tuition at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas. But even that was no walk in the park. He promptly failed out of college during his freshman year, after which he sheepishly returned to St. Louis.  Through hustle and hard work, Jon was able to find a coveted position as a reader for multiple casting offices around Los Angeles. And now, having been a participant in over 10,000 auditions to date, he has started teaching other actors the insights he has gleaned during his time as a reader.​Today, Jon's larger mission is to continue to find ways to deepen the connection to his voice, and to reach back out to those who feel powerless, voiceless, alone and afraid. Having walked that path, Jon can think of no better way than to shine a light in the darkness for others to follow. Even if it's just a single person, he knows it's all well worth the effort. ALL ABOUT JONAbout ShellyShelly Snow Pordea is a dynamic figure, renowned as a speaker, publishing consultant, and author of the captivating Tracing Time trilogy. This trilogy, a compelling narrative of women navigating the complexities of life while endeavoring to protect themselves and their loved ones, has consistently ranked among the top one hundred Time Travel Romance books on Amazon Kindle, attesting to its widespread popularity.​Beyond her literary achievements, Shelly is a courageous advocate for survivors of spiritual, sexual, and institutional abuse. Drawing from her own experiences as a cult survivor and victim of childhood sexual abuse, she utilizes the power of storytelling to effect change. Her forthcoming memoir and screenplay shed light on her journey, amplifying the voices of those who have faced similar challenges.​As a screenwriter, Shelly collaborates with her brother, actor Jon Snow, in the production of a fictional adaptation for a series drama based on her personal story. Shelly Snow Pordea invites you to join her journey on social media, where she shares her insights and creative endeavors. Follow her @shellysnowpordea for a glimpse into the world of a multifaceted storyteller and advocate. ALL ABOUT SHELLY〰️〰️Shanny 👖〰️〰️Instagram TikTokYouTube www.ShannyPantsShow.com
  • 10. Jon Snow and Shelly Snow Pordea Part ONE

    51:25
    ABOUT Jon Jon Snow is an actor and writer, but he is first and foremost the survivor of both a cult, and of sexual abuse. Raised primarily in St. Louis, Missouri, Jon ran away from home and the cult when he was just 17 years old, between his junior and senior year of high school. The cult, the sexual assault, and the physical abuse endured from his mother, left Jon feeling powerless. A young man without a voice. Not long after running away, acting came calling in the form of a mostly paid for tuition at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas. But even that was no walk in the park. He promptly failed out of college during his freshman year, after which he sheepishly returned to St. Louis.  Through hustle and hard work, Jon was able to find a coveted position as a reader for multiple casting offices around Los Angeles. And now, having been a participant in over 10,000 auditions to date, he has started teaching other actors the insights he has gleaned during his time as a reader.​Today, Jon's larger mission is to continue to find ways to deepen the connection to his voice, and to reach back out to those who feel powerless, voiceless, alone and afraid. Having walked that path, Jon can think of no better way than to shine a light in the darkness for others to follow. Even if it's just a single person, he knows it's all well worth the effort. ALL ABOUT JONAbout ShellyShelly Snow Pordea is a dynamic figure, renowned as a speaker, publishing consultant, and author of the captivating Tracing Time trilogy. This trilogy, a compelling narrative of women navigating the complexities of life while endeavoring to protect themselves and their loved ones, has consistently ranked among the top one hundred Time Travel Romance books on Amazon Kindle, attesting to its widespread popularity.​Beyond her literary achievements, Shelly is a courageous advocate for survivors of spiritual, sexual, and institutional abuse. Drawing from her own experiences as a cult survivor and victim of childhood sexual abuse, she utilizes the power of storytelling to effect change. Her forthcoming memoir and screenplay shed light on her journey, amplifying the voices of those who have faced similar challenges.​As a screenwriter, Shelly collaborates with her brother, actor Jon Snow, in the production of a fictional adaptation for a series drama based on her personal story. Shelly Snow Pordea invites you to join her journey on social media, where she shares her insights and creative endeavors. Follow her @shellysnowpordea for a glimpse into the world of a multifaceted storyteller and advocate. ALL ABOUT SHELLY〰️〰️Shanny 👖〰️〰️Instagram TikTokYouTube www.ShannyPantsShow.com
  • 9. Session with A Sister

    01:34:20
    Shanny and sister Carrie discuss how they were never allowed to Celebrate Christmas until they left the cult they were raised in. Ready for some laughs. We have them for you!
  • 8. Jessica Willis Fisher

    01:18:40
    Jessica Willis Fisher is a singer/songwriter, performing artist, speaker, and author who believes that sharing our stories with one another will change the world. Growing up the eldest daughter in a controlling and abusive household, she performed with her family band, The Willis Clan, until her departure in 2016 at the age of 23. Her first book, Unspeakable, narrates her harrowing struggle to both articulate her childhood experience and find her true voice on the other side of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. A passionate advocate for survivors, Jessica lives in Nashville, TN.UNSPEAKABLE:Surviving My Childhood and Finding My VoiceBrought up under the strange philosophies of her controlling father, young Jessica Willis was curious about the outside world. She wondered if other girls were forbidden to disagree with their elders. If other mothers feared their husbands. If other daddies came into their daughters’ bedrooms at night. In Unspeakable, her debut memoir, Jessica Willis Fisher gives a lacerating portrait of a girl who was famous yet unknown, dreaming of freedom and terrified of finding it. Stunning in its detailed, poetic prose, Unspeakable takes us on a journey through a chaotic and crowded childhood, first kisses and first love, an electrifying court case that brings new losses to the surface, and a tumultuous journey of a faith so different from the one Jessica first knew.WebsiteYOUTUBE〰️〰️Shanny 👖〰️〰️LinkTreeTikTokYouTube www.ShannyPantsShow.com
  • 7. Mike Boyd

    46:40
    SummaryIn this episode of the Shanny Pants Show, Shanny interviews Mike Boyd, a former cult member, about his experiences and recovery. Mike shares how he joined the cult and the challenges he faced within it, including the amplification of destructive behavior and struggles with love, value, and acceptance. He discusses his journey of anger and healing, including his experience with therapy and the importance of community in the recovery process. Mike also talks about writing a book on cult recovery and offers advice for those still in the cult.TakeawaysJoining a cult can lead to amplified destructive behavior and struggles with love, value, and acceptance.Recovery from cult experiences may require addressing anger and seeking healing through therapy and community support.Writing and sharing personal stories can help others in their own recovery journeys.It is important to find trusted individuals and communities who can provide support and understanding during the recovery process.As many people begin their quest of seeking God, they all too often can overlook the destructive force of a church or religion that may not be readily visible. These destructive forces can sometimes be overshadowed by the things that are positive about their newly found religious journey. These destructive forces can sometimes come in the form of physical abuse but can oftentimes come through emotional abuse. These disturbances can overpower a person's life and they can also feel all alone with their religiously oppressive experience. With the author's own personal experience of being a part of an abusive cult church for 26 years, he offers understanding, hope, healing, and a way through the trauma through a twelve-step process. -CULT CANDYCult Candy-Youtube Links:Introduction https://youtu.be/PIhJcggFqa8?si=BNpj33whC-4M8_CzElitismhttps://youtu.be/12fxb3LCsdo?si=JE2nY1iInimL6lIUIsolationismhttps://youtu.be/sGUq43Ovde0?si=Nl7Z2P2CdEgt-2pjTotalismhttps://youtu.be/Th8WNlsprlw?si=Wvr7yqtafQJneN_ULegalismhttps://youtu.be/EBILT1h7ffc?si=H3dg4dR4M8yuwT3DFace Book Linkhttps://www.facebook.com/cultcandyinfo Contact Mike cult.candi@gmail.com
  • 6. Rebekah Drumsta

    01:03:13
    For over two decades, Rebekah has held a global presence through devoting her efforts to various nonprofits and organizations.  Her background is diverse, including educational and mental health content development, international relations, and public speaking.Currently, Rebekah is the Interim Chief Executive Officer of NPE Friends Fellowship, an international non-profit organization which assists individuals, and their families, who have received unexpected results from an at-home DNA test.Rebekah is also a consultant, writer, and advocate at RebekahDrumsta.com with the mission of supporting survivors of spiritual abuse and religious trauma by providing resources to educate and equip not only survivors, but the public as well. Sharing her own story to help others who have had similar life experiences is at the heart of Rebekah’s purpose. She is a board member with two non-profit organizations The Vashti Initiative and the Attachment and Trauma Network. Rebekah’s hobbies include binge watching riveting shows, thrifting with her family, international travel, and dabbling in all things creative and artistic. Rebekah and her family reside in Texas.   Rebekah holds undergraduate and advanced degrees in: Urban Ministry and Family Crisis, Counseling, and Religious Education and is also a Certified Professional Life Coach. She has made appearances on and consulted with sources including BBC, NBC and ABC, and a variety of other platforms such as podcasts and film projects. Rebekah’s book, When Family Hurts: 30 Days to Finding Healing and Clarity, was released in December of 2021. She is a co-author of the research paper, Percentage of U.S. Adults Suffering from Religious Trauma: A Sociological Study, as well as an author in the 2023 collaborative book, Hope in the 2020s: Encouragement for our time.Credit: www.rebekahdrumsta.com/aboutInstagram: rebekahdrumstaFacebook: DrumstaRebekahTwitter: DrumstaRebekahWebsite: rebekahdrumsta.com