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The NextGen Cast is a podcast from Next Generation GP, a free national leadership programme for GPs at the start of their careers. In this podcast, we go backstage with some of our favourite speakers..and get to know the
Latest Episode4/5/2021

Episode 16. Backstage with Laura Neilson.

I've been really excited to do this episode for a while now. Dr Laura Neilson invariably moves our Next Gen audiences to tears and sparks standing ovations, because of her incredibly powerful story of influencing health inequalities from when she was only a medical student. Laura is the CEO of Hope Citadel Healthcare CIC, and a director of the Focused Care CIC - a unique approach to managing vulnerable patients in areas of deprivation. She founded Hope Citadel whilst shewas a medical student living on a council estate in Oldham. She noticed the inequality in healthcare for the poorest, seeing the "inverse care law" in stark reality, and decided that it was possible to make a difference – so she set up a GP practice. Hope Citadel now run 11 GP practices in some of the most hard-pressed areas of Greater Manchester, aiming to provide whole-person healthcare to all.Laura is passionate about tackling health inequalities andbreaking down barriers to universal services.In 2016, Laura was recognised as a remarkable leader in healthcare when she was awarded the HSJ Rising Star award.In this conversation she tells me about her journey to setting up Hope Citadel, where she found the courage to influence health inequalities as a medical student, and her views on the role of doctors in social justice.*Highlights:Her early influences (3 mins)'Noticing the gap' (7 mins)Digging deep and finding courage (9 mins)Setting up Hope Citadel (13 mins)Stories that made her stop (19 mins)Going to too many funerals (21 mins)"Focused care" (23.5 mins)Quality improvement vs playing (26.5 mins)Being told she couldn't do it (28 mins)Feeling out of her depth (30.5 mins)Learning how to lead (33 mins)Feeling overwhelmed tackling health inequalities (37 mins)Lessons from Covid for society (39mins)The role of doctors in social justice (41.5 mins)Her vision for her patients (43 mins)What can we do? (45 mins)Sustaining her energy (48 mins)Final 3 questions - a leader, a book, and top tips (50 mins)*Resources:Focused careBrene Brown's Dare to Lead book and the podcast on SpotifyHealth Equity in England- the Marmot Review 10 years onMore about Aidan Halligan, who was an inspirational leadership figure for many people *Social media:@NextGGP/@nishmanek*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletin
4/5/2021

Episode 16. Backstage with Laura Neilson.

I've been really excited to do this episode for a while now. Dr Laura Neilson invariably moves our Next Gen audiences to tears and sparks standing ovations, because of her incredibly powerful story of influencing health inequalities from when she was only a medical student. Laura is the CEO of Hope Citadel Healthcare CIC, and a director of the Focused Care CIC - a unique approach to managing vulnerable patients in areas of deprivation. She founded Hope Citadel whilst shewas a medical student living on a council estate in Oldham. She noticed the inequality in healthcare for the poorest, seeing the "inverse care law" in stark reality, and decided that it was possible to make a difference – so she set up a GP practice. Hope Citadel now run 11 GP practices in some of the most hard-pressed areas of Greater Manchester, aiming to provide whole-person healthcare to all.Laura is passionate about tackling health inequalities andbreaking down barriers to universal services.In 2016, Laura was recognised as a remarkable leader in healthcare when she was awarded the HSJ Rising Star award.In this conversation she tells me about her journey to setting up Hope Citadel, where she found the courage to influence health inequalities as a medical student, and her views on the role of doctors in social justice.*Highlights:Her early influences (3 mins)'Noticing the gap' (7 mins)Digging deep and finding courage (9 mins)Setting up Hope Citadel (13 mins)Stories that made her stop (19 mins)Going to too many funerals (21 mins)"Focused care" (23.5 mins)Quality improvement vs playing (26.5 mins)Being told she couldn't do it (28 mins)Feeling out of her depth (30.5 mins)Learning how to lead (33 mins)Feeling overwhelmed tackling health inequalities (37 mins)Lessons from Covid for society (39mins)The role of doctors in social justice (41.5 mins)Her vision for her patients (43 mins)What can we do? (45 mins)Sustaining her energy (48 mins)Final 3 questions - a leader, a book, and top tips (50 mins)*Resources:Focused careBrene Brown's Dare to Lead book and the podcast on SpotifyHealth Equity in England- the Marmot Review 10 years onMore about Aidan Halligan, who was an inspirational leadership figure for many people *Social media:@NextGGP/@nishmanek*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletin
3/14/2021

Episode 15. Backstage with: David Richmond

After our last episode with Rachel Steen who is just embarking on her career as a qualified GP, for Episode 15 we spoke to someone retired from clinical practice, with decades of experience in clinical leadership to draw upom. This conversation is with Dr David Richmond, who is currently a Non-Executive Director at Birmingham Women and Children’s NHS Foundation Trust.David was Medical Director at Liverpool Women's Hospital for 25 years, and was involved with the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG) for 20 years. This culminated in becoming the Vice President (Clinical Quality) and then President of the College. Here, he was instrumental in delivering the first national outcome report for maternity which is now the National Maternal and Perinatal Audit programme. His clinical specialty was that of Urogynaecology. As Chair of the Audit Committee of the British Society of Urogynaecology (BSUG) he developed the national BSUG surgical database with others. He retired from NHS clinical practice in 2017.In this conversation David reflects on his decades of experience as a clinical leader, including: *Highlights:His leadership journey (3.5 mins)Overcoming self doubt (6 mins)Balancing clinical and leadership roles (7.5 mins)Challenges he faced as President of the College (12.5 mins)His work on reducing perinatal mortality (14 mins)Lessons from working with politicians (19 mins)Balancing life at home (27 mins)A recommended book and person (30 mins)Top tips for new leaders (32.5 mins)*Resources:Recommended book: Winning by Clive Woodward*Social media:@NextGGP/@nishmanek*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletin
2/14/2021

Episode 14. Backstage with Rachel Steen.

Our third episode of 2021 is with Dr Rachel Steen, who is a newly qualified GP in Sheffield with a passion for health inequalities. She is right at the start of her leadership journey, and a great example of someone who has transformed her perception of what leadership is, tackled her own imposter syndrome, and found the courage to make changes within her sphere.Rachel is the leader of the Trailblazer GP scheme, supporting GPs working in areas of deprivation across Yorkshire and Humber. She also sits on the RCGP Health Inequalities Standing Group, and is part of a group of GPs who have created a website called Fairhealth- a fantastic educational resource for health professionals on health equity. As part of this, she started her own podcast (Finding fairhealth) interviewing inspiring colleagues who share some of the challenges and solutions they've encountered in tackling health inequity.*Highlights:Who she is (3.5 mins)Start of her leadership journey (5.5 mins)Growing in confidence (11.5 mins)The Trailblazer scheme (15 mins)Lessons from her podcast (17 mins)The importance of GPs in managing health inequalities (20.5 mins)Life's curveballs (24 mins)A recommended book and person (26.5 mins)Top tips for new leaders (29.5 mins)*Resources:Recommended paper: Reduing Health Inequalities: system, scale and sustainabilityRecommended book: The Boy, the Mole and the FoxMichael Marmot's booksRachel's podcast: Finding Fairhealth*Social media:@rmsteen@NextGGP/@nishmanek*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletin
1/25/2021

Episode 13. Backstage with Martin McShane.

Our second episode of 2021 is with Dr Martin McShane.Martin is currently Chief Medical Officer at Optum, with over three decades of NHS experience in both frontline clinical services and management. He trained as a general and vascular surgeon, and then became a GP partner in an ex-mining community in Derbyshire.In the early part of his career, he acquired substantial commissioning and executive management experience through fundholding, clinical chairmanship in commissioning organisations and as a PCT Chief Executive and Director. He then worked at a national level on the National Patient Safety Forum and as National Domain Director for Enhancing the Quality of Life for People with Long Term Conditions for NHS England.It was a pleasure to speak to Martin, and share some of the fantastic leadership advice he gave me a few years ago that I've found really helpful. *Highlights:Who he really is (3 mins)Learning from failure (6.5 mins)A life-changing event which turned him to general practice (12 mins)When he felt he became a leader (15.5 mins)Working at NHSE (20 mins)The power of coaching (21 mins)Feeling out of depth (26 mins)Moving to Optum and what he's learnt there (30 mins)The role of luck (35 mins)Final 3 questions- an article, a role model, and top tips (38 mins)*Resources:Obama on BBC soundsObama's new book Nancy Kline: Time to Think *Social media:@NextGGP/@nishmanek*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletin
1/5/2021

Episode 12. Backstage with Imogen Staveley

Happy New Year!Our first episode of 2021 is with a young GP and rising star Dr Imogen Staveley.Imogen is newly qualified, having only been a GP for 6 years- but what she has achieved in that time is quite remarkable. She is a GP appraiser, Deputy Chair of Warwickshire North CCG, and a clinical lead in the Transforming Primary Care team of The Healthy London Partnership. She also recently graduated with an MBA from Warwick Business School (with distinction!). Before this, she completed a 'Darzi' leadership fellowship at UCLPartners. Aspiring GP leaders at Next Gen events often ask, amongst other things: how to find new leadership opportunities, what makes a good mentor and how to get one, and how to grapple with that sense of "imposter syndrome" that can affect us all too often early on in our leadership journeys. This podcast is for anyone who'd like some honest answers to those pertinent questions. I was delighted when Imogen agreed to come on the podcast, because I've always admired her drive, her confidence in stretching herself, her ability to plan ahead, her honesty in getting things wrong, and her commitment to investing in herself and to others coming up behind her.*Highlights:Start of her leadership journey and current roles (5 mins)How she has planned her career (9.5 mins)Doing an MBA (11 mins)The importance of coaching and mentoring, and how to find one (13 mins)Not getting opportunities (19 mins)Being a new mum (21 mins)Navigating the return to work after maternity leave (23 mins)Being a part time portfolio GP (30 mins)Future career plans (33 mins)Final 3 questions- an article, a role model, and top tips (35 mins)*Resources:Article recommendation: What is value in healthcare?*Social media:@ImogenStaveley@NextGGP/@nishmanek*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletin
12/13/2020

Episode 11. Backstage with: Sarah-Jane Marsh

Our *Christmas special* is a fireside chat with the wonderful Sarah-Jane Marsh, CEO of Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital. Sarah-Jane joined the NHS via the Graduate Management Scheme. Appointed Chief Operating Officer at Birmingham Children’s Hospital in December 2007, and Chief Executive just over a year later, whilst still only 32, the Trust has been under her leadership for 12 years andwas named ‘Provider Trust of the Year’ by the Health Service Journal in 2015, and rated Outstanding by the CQC in February 2017.In 2015, Sarah-Jane took on the additional role of Chief Executive of Birmingham Women’s, before going on to integrate the two Trusts to create the first Women’s and Children’s NHS Foundation Trust in Europe in little more than 18 months.In 2016, Sarah-Jane was asked to head-up the NHS England Maternity Transformation Programme,which aims to make maternitycare across England safer, and more personalised.More recently, she was asked by the Government to lead the testing aspect of their Covid-19 'Test and Trace' programme. In this episode, Sarah-Jane talks candidly about her recent experience working for the Government, reflects on how she coped when her resilience hit rock bottom, and shares some of the lessons she's learnt on her leadership journey so far...*Highlights:What it was like being asked to lead for 'Test and Trace' (3 mins)Managing life at home alongside that responsibility (6.5 mins)Lessons learnt from that role (11.5 mins)How her resilience hit rock bottom (13 mins)Her journey to CEO (19 mins)Managing imposter syndrome (23 mins)Her proudest moments (27 mins)What she'd like to achieve over the next 10 years (30 mins)How she balances being a mum (34 mins)How she copes with abuse on Twitter (40 mins)Her final recommended resources, role model, and top tips fo new leaders (42 mins)*Resources:Jess Phillips' first book that Sarah-Jane mentions when she talks about imposter syndromeOur podcast episode with Sir Bruce Keogh, Sarah-Jane's Chairman at Birmingham Women's and Children's Hospital*Social media:@BWCHBoss@NextGGP*Subscribe to the Next Gen GP monthly bulletin to keep in the loop about future webinars, podcast episodes, and our virtual programmes:bit.ly/NGGPbulletinWishing you all a safe and happy Christmas, and we will be back in 2021!
11/22/2020

Episode 10. Backstage with: Sonali Kinra

This conversation is with an inspiring leader earlier on in her career, DrSonali Kinra. Sonali is a friend and colleague, and has been part of a team leading our Nottingham Next Gen programme since it's inception. Sonali completed her undergraduate training in India and moved to England in 2004. She began practising as a GP in 2008, and since then she's been a GP partner, sessional GP, and continues to practise as a portfolio GP in North Central London.She's still GP Retention Lead in Nottingham and Nottinghamshire Integrated Care System, working with various stakeholders to improve recruitment, retention and wellbeing across traditional and additional roles in general practice and Primary Care Networks. In October 2020, she was elected nationally to serve as a member of the RCGP Council for 3 years.just after this podcast was recorded, it was also announced that Sonali has been appointed interim Clinical Associate in the primary care team at NHS England and NHS Improvement.We explored her values and where they came from, her leadership journey so far, and her thoughts on where she might go from here...*Highlights:Growing up in India, and what her family means to her(4 mins)Work-life juggle (6.5 mins)Current roles (10 mins)Managing clinical work alongside other roles (10.5 mins)How to get into leadership roles (14 mins)Reflections on being from a BAME background and what we need to do (22 mins)Future career plans (26 mins)Recommended book, role model, and top advice for new leaders (28 mins)*Resources:Our 'Next Gen Nabs' (a 5 minute Q&A) earlier this year with SonaliSonali's latest blog for Nottingham ICS*Social media:@SonaliKinra@NextGGP