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Election Special: Who will save Britain from Reform now?
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The Matts reflect on a terrible day for both Labour and the Tories and ask what it is going to take to keep Nigel Farage from Downing Street. Three years ago they were mocked for suggesting Nigel Farage could be PM. Now he’s even money favourite to win the most seats at the next general election. What does this surge tell us about Keir Starmer and how Labour need to act if it stands a chance of mounting a serious challenge to a pocket-lining populist like Farage?
Produced by Matt Withers
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