The MasculiniTea Podcast
Consent & Accountability ~ A Conversation with Kim Dee, Victor Salmon & Justin Roll
"Being in a situation where someone is telling you, okay you have to sit down and learn about this and you are forced into this conversation — they're not consenting to being in the room to talk about consent, and there's a problem there. If we want to move forward as a society, everyone needs to learn about this, but doing this in a way where we are forcing people into it?... There's a lot of animosity among a lot of young men... they see it as an attack on them. They see the conversations around consent and trying to be a better person as that there is something wrong with them."
~ Justin Roll
In this episode we're talking about Consent: what is it as a concept, what is it in practice? What's the difference between seeking permission and finding a space of mutual agreement? And how do we engage with accountability when we learn that we've done harm to others?
Joining me are three experts on Consent Advocacy and Education.
Kim Dee is a passionate educator with over 18 years of teaching, facilitation, and outreach training and experience. She holds a PhD in evolution and behaviour, is a co-lead of the GVIAS Conduct Committee, and co-founder of the Vancouver-based Consent Crew.
Justin Roll is a consent advocate and youth and children's program organizer living in Vancouver. In addition to volunteering with The Consent Crew, Justin previously facilitated workshops in both high schools and elementary schools across the lower mainland, talking with young men about masculinity and consent.
Victor Salmon is an intersectional mixed-race feminist. Queer relationship anarchist. Educator. Consultant. Volunteer. Mediator. MVK director at large and Accountability Subcommittee member. Restorative justice and accountability blogger. Vancouver Consent Crew Facilitator. Podcast host for Intimate Interactions.
Intro soundtrack courtesy of Aaron Handford.
Cover image: still of actor Harrison Ford as Han Solo in Star Wars: A New Hope