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Nick Manning & Brian Jacobs on why the advertising world is in trouble?
Season 5, Ep. 34
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In this introductory episode, The Drum's Steven Antoniewicz interviews the co-founders of the Advertising: Who Cares? movement, Brian Jacobs and Nick Manning. Veterans of the advertising and media worlds, the duo has spent the last year sounding the alarm on major threats to the industry they love.
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