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Tea - An Ancient History
"The monks say the divine flavour befits quiet seclusion.
The abundant fluttering leaves become a welcome guest.
They would send a package to my prefectural office,
But the brick well and copper stove would ruin its
character.
Worse yet, the spring teas from Meng Mountain and
Guzhu
Sealed in white clay, stamped in red, they travel dusty
roads.
If you want to know the pure cooling taste of milky buds,
You must be one who sleeps in clouds and squats on rocks."
These are the words of the early ninth-century poet Liu Yuxi. After drinking tea with Buddhist monks on a mountain, Liu contemplates the tragedy of taking a parcel of tea home with him...
Hello! Welcome back to another episode of The Delicious Legacy, my hungry and curious archaeogastronomers!
I'm Thom Ntinas and this is a short history of Tea. The world's most thirst-quenching liquid after water!
Enjoy!
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