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Flying Catch-22 with 'Stoney' Stonich
#Catch-22 is one of Scott Marchand and I's favourite books, so when the opportunity came up to chat with Stoney Stonich, who, as a young pilot, signed on to be one of the B-25 pilots for Mike Nichols' adaptation in 1969, we jumped at the chance. Stoney tells us all about the production, the challenges and the excitement of filming aerial scenes, including THAT hair-raising takeoff and hanging out with the late great Bob Newhart. Stoney also is a T-6 man and helped form the North American Trainer Association. He has had quite the career, and it was fantastic to chat with him on The Damcasters.
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00:00 Introduction
03:44 Stoney's Start in Aviation
04:53 Joining Catch-22
10:10 Arriving on Set in Mexico
15:03 Shoot the Take-Off Scene
19:28 Frank Tallman and the Dummy
21:34 The Death of Johnny Jordan
24:16 Pima Air and Space Museum's VC-118 Liftmaster
27:37 Life on the Catch-22 Set and Bob Newhart
33:09 Stoney's T-6 and the North American Trainer Association
40:42 Catch-22's B-25 Legacy
45:36 Wrap Up and Become a Damcasteer!
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43:27||Ep. 90🛫Visit the Ekster website today via my partner link: https://partner.ekster.com/Damcasterspod and use my code THEDAMCASTERS to get up to a 55% discount in the Ekster Black Friday Sale!!!-----------------------------------------------------Join us for Part 2 of our look at the Combat Bullseye tests with author Chris Gibson. Phase 2 of Combat Bullseye would see the Covair B-58 Hustler used as a conventional bombing platform as both a pathfinder and solo bomber. But, another aircraft was looming on the horizon, the General Dynamics F-111A. This would be the Hustler's last chance to prove itself and be deployed to Southeast Asia.🛩️Check out The Aviation Historian here: https://www.theaviationhistorian.com/🛩️Buy Chris Gibson's latest book, They Also Served - RAF Reconnaissance and Support Projects since 1945 here: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/11015/9781800353084Head to the Boney Abroad Bookshop today! 10% of each sale (UK Only) goes to supporting the podcast: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/boneyabroad-----------------------------------------------------🛫Become a Damcasteer today on Patreon! Join from just £3+VAT a month to get ad-free episodes, chat with Matt and a welcome pack. Click here for more info: https://www.patreon.com/thedamcasters-----------------------------------------------------✈️Get the latest from the Pima Air and Space Museum by following their socials!Website: https://pimaair.org/https://www.facebook.com/PimaAirAndSpacehttps://www.instagram.com/pimaairhttps://x.com/pimaairhttps://www.youtube.com/c/PimaAirSpaceMuseum👕Get your aviation on with 909 Apparel today! Check out their website here: https://www.909apparel.com/-----------------------------------------------------The Damcasters © 2024 by Matt Bone is licensed under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Intro and Ekster Ad Read02:30 The Hustler as Formation Bomber08:16 The Hustler as Conventional Bomber20:01 Solving TAC's SEAD Problem25:19 B-1 Segway!30:37 Potential B-58 Deployment41:27 Wrap Up and Become a Damcasteer!89. Could The B-58 Have Served In Vietnam? Combat Bullseye Pt.1
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01:19:02||Ep. 87Join us for Part 3 of our series on Boeing's Fortresses, the evergreen B-52 Stratofortress!🛩️Watch all of our Boeing's Fortresses mini-series as they drop here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpytFew7euhmG92JX9NVUkl4ZbgZ7VmSU🛩️Check out Ben Skipper's first visit to The Damcasters on Civil Aviation's First 100 Years right here: https://www.thedamcasterspod.com/podcast/100-years-of-civil-aviation-with-ben-skipper/🛩️Buy Ben's Flight Craft books from Pen and Sword at The Damcasters Bookshop (UK Only) here: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/boneyabroad👉Follow Ben on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/WriteBenSkipper👉Follow Ben on Bluesky here: https://bsky.app/profile/benskipper.bsky.social👉Visit Ben's Fallout Substack here: https://fallout.substack.com/ -----------------------------------------------------✈️Get the latest from the Pima Air and Space Museum by following their socials!Website: https://pimaair.org/https://www.facebook.com/PimaAirAndSpacehttps://www.instagram.com/pimaairhttps://x.com/pimaairhttps://www.youtube.com/c/PimaAirSpaceMuseum👕Get your aviation on with 909 Apparel today! Check out their website here: https://www.909apparel.com/-----------------------------------------------------🛫Become a Damcasteer today on Patreon! Join from just £3+VAT a month to get ad-free episodes, chat with Matt and a welcome pack. Click here for more info: https://www.patreon.com/thedamcasters-----------------------------------------------------The Damcasters © 2024 by Matt Bone is licensed under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Introduction03:31 The Road to the Forever Bomber23:33 The Sublime B-47 Stratojet45:45 The Competition from the B-156:37 The New Engines75:55 Conclusion to Boeing's Fortresses86. Boeing's Fortresses Part 2 - The B-29 Superfortress
01:08:16||Ep. 86Join us for Part 2 of our series on Boeing's Fortresses, the remarkable B-29 Superfortress! Ordered from Boeing's drawing board and costing $3b in 1940s money, the delivery system for the atomic bomb cost even more than the weapon itself. But that is only part of the remarkable tale Ben Skipper has to share with us.🛩️Catch all the Boeing's Fortresses Mini-Series as they drop here: https://www.thedamcasterspod.com/tag/boeing-fortresses/🛩️Check out Ben Skipper's first visit to The Damcasters on Civil Aviation's First 100 Years right here: https://www.thedamcasterspod.com/podcast/100-years-of-civil-aviation-with-ben-skipper/🛩️Buy Ben's Flight Craft books from Pen and Sword at The Damcasters Bookshop (UK Only) here: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/boneyabroad👉Follow Ben on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/WriteBenSkipper👉Follow Ben on Bluesky here: https://bsky.app/profile/benskipper.bsky.social👉Visit Ben's Fallout Substack here: https://fallout.substack.com/ -----------------------------------------------------✈️Get the latest from the Pima Air and Space Museum by following their socials!Website: https://pimaair.org/https://www.facebook.com/PimaAirAndSpacehttps://www.instagram.com/pimaairhttps://x.com/pimaairhttps://www.youtube.com/c/PimaAirSpaceMuseum👕Get your aviation on with 909 Apparel today! Check out their website here: https://www.909apparel.com/-----------------------------------------------------🛫Become a Damcasteer today on Patreon! Join from just £3+VAT a month to get ad-free episodes, chat with Matt and a welcome pack. Click here for more info: https://www.patreon.com/thedamcasters-----------------------------------------------------The Damcasters © 2024 by Matt Bone is licensed under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Introduction02:12 The B-29's Origins08:58 Design Challenges13:52 Curtis LeMay Returns21:16 The Battle of Kansas24:20 Engine Issues and Production30:48 Flying The Hump34:17 Psychological Impact on Japan42:33 Special Weapons49:26 Hiroshima and Nagasaki63:27 Legacy of the B-2985. Boeing's Fortresses Part 1 - The B-17 Flying Fortress
01:01:47||Ep. 85Join us for Part 1 of our series on Boeing's Fortresses, the incredible B-17 Flying Fortress!🛩️Check out Ben Skipper's first visit to The Damcasters on Civil Aviation's First 100 Years right here: https://youtu.be/upQyb-yEvzc🛩️Catch all the Boeing's Fortresses Mini-Series as they drop here: https://www.thedamcasterspod.com/tag/boeing-fortresses/🛩️Buy Ben's Flight Craft books from Pen and Sword at The Damcasters Bookshop (UK Only) here: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/boneyabroad👉Follow Ben on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/WriteBenSkipper👉Follow Ben on Bluesky here: https://bsky.app/profile/benskipper.bsky.social👉Visit Ben's Fallout Substack here: https://fallout.substack.com/ -----------------------------------------------------✈️Get the latest from the Pima Air and Space Museum by following their socials!Website: https://pimaair.org/https://www.facebook.com/PimaAirAndSpacehttps://www.instagram.com/pimaairhttps://x.com/pimaairhttps://www.youtube.com/c/PimaAirSpaceMuseum👕Get your aviation on with 909Apparel today! Check out their website here: https://www.909apparel.com/-----------------------------------------------------🛫Become a Damcasteer today on Patreon! Join from just £3+VAT a month to get ad-free episodes, chat with Matt and a welcome pack. Click here for more info: https://www.patreon.com/thedamcasters-----------------------------------------------------The Damcasters © 2024 by Matt Bone is licensed under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International-----------------------------------------------------00:00 Introduction06:09 The Flightcraft Series Explained10:12 The Road to the B-1716:07 The B-17 in RAF Service20:25 USAAF Arrives in England28:40 B-17 in Combat30:48 The B-17's Adaptability43:45 B-17 Variants50:13 The B-17's Legacy59:44 Conclusion and B-29 Teaser