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INTERVIEW: Isaac talks with former Secret Service agent Bill Gage

In the wake of the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump. There've been a lot of questions, namely questions about the security and the Secret Service at this Butler, Pennsylvania event.


How could something like this happen? How could a 20 year old kid get onto a roof just a few hundred feet away from the former president and get several clean shots, several clean attempts, at his life? Today, we're sitting down with former Secret Service agent Bill Gage to talk about what happened at this Butler, Pennsylvania event, what the failures were of the Secret Service and the security for the event, and what should happen to the director of the Secret Service, whom Bill actually used to work alongside. 


Today's interview is part of a larger deep dive we are doing on the Secret Service. If you're interested in learning more, you can go to ReadTangle.com and read our latest piece, which looks into the history and the infrastructure of the Secret Service, as well as some analysis of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and where the service failed.


Hope you all enjoy the interview.


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