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17 Lias Saoudi on 'Hellfire: The Jerry Lee Lewis Story'

Season 2, Ep. 7

Fat White Family front man and White Rabbit author Lias Saoudi is this week's Songbook guest, chatting to Jude about Nick Tosches' extraordinary and evocative biography of Jerry Lee Lewis, Hellfire.


They also discuss Lias' own experiences of writing a book, the death of rock 'n' roll, how Fat White Family might be viewed in ten years time, and much, much more.


Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe chronicles the sordid and thrilling stories of the country's most notorious cult band and is now available in paperback:

Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure a book by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi

Ten Thousand Apologies by Adelle Stripe, Lias Saoudi - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk


Books mentioned in the podcast:


Hellfire by Nick Tosches Hellfire : Nick Tosches : 9780141924427 : Blackwell's

Sing Backwards And Weep by Mark Lanegan Sing Backwards and Weep by Mark Lanegan - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk

Lipstick Traces by Greil Marcus Lipstick Traces: A Secret History of the Twentieth Century a book by Greil Marcus

Dead Elvis by Greil Marcus Dead Elvis: A Chronicle of a Cultural Obsession a book by Greil Marcus

Unfinished Business by Michael Bracewell Unfinished Business a book by Michael Bracewell

Teaching a Stone to Talk by Annie Dillard Teaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters a book by Annie Dillard


You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:

The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk


Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo

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Thursday, April 6, 2023

20 Benjamin Myers on 'Head On/Repossessed'

Season 2, Ep. 10
Award-winning author Benjamin Myers is the final guest of series 2 of Songbook, and he chats to Jude about Julian Cope's extraordinary double-volume autobiography Head On/Repossessed.The discussion also takes in Ben's early years working in the music press, the personal significance of Jon Savage's England's Dreaming, the differences between writing novels and writing about music, and much more.Ben's new book Cuddy, a bold and experimental retelling of the story of the hermit St. Cuthbert, unofficial patron saint of the North of England, is out now Cuddy a book by Benjamin Myers. (bookshop.org)Books mentioned in the podcast:The KLF by John Higgs The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band who Burned a Million Pounds a book by John Higgs. (bookshop.org)Richard by Benjamin Myers Richard by Ben Myers - Pan MacmillanHead On/Repossessed by Julian Cope Head On/Repossessed a book by Julian Cope. (bookshop.org)I'm Not with the Band by Sylvia Patterson I'm Not with the Band: A Writer's Life Lost in Music a book by Sylvia Patterson. (bookshop.org)England's Dreaming by Jon Savage England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)The Truth About Rock by Dr Hugh Pyle The Truth about Rock Music - Hugh F. Pyle: 9780873988391 - AbeBooksMuse, Odalisque, Handmaiden by Rose Simpson Muse, Odalisque, Handmaiden: A Girl's Life in the Incredible String Band a book by Rose Simpson. (bookshop.org)Get In The Van by Henry Rollins Get in the Van : On the Road With Black Flag by Rollins, Henry: Near Fine Soft cover (1995) 2nd Edition | Books for Amnesty BristolYou can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.ukFinally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, March 30, 2023

19 Laura Barton on 'A Little Devil In America'

Season 2, Ep. 9
Renowned music journalist and broadcaster Laura Barton joins to chat about A Little Devil In America, Hanif Abdurraqib's brilliant essay collection exploring black culture in the US.Their conversation also takes in Laura's work with the inimitable Self Esteem, being a woman in the music press, dancing to The Strokes, and much more.Laura's memoir, Sad Songs, is publishing in May 2023 and is a beautifully written enquiry into the history, science and musicology of our love of sad music Sad Songs a book by Laura BartonBooks mentioned in the podcast:A Little Devil In America by Hanif Abdurraqib A Little Devil in America: In Praise of Black Performance a book by Hanif AbdurraqibUnder My Thumb, edited by Rhian Jones and Eli Davis Under My Thumb: Songs that hate women and the women who love them a book by Rhian Jones and Eli DavisThe Crane Wife by CJ Hauser The Crane Wife: A Memoir in Essays a book by Christina Joyce HauserFaithfull by Marianne Faithfull Faithfull: An Autobiography - Faithfull, Marianne: 9780815410461 - AbeBooksThey Can't Kill Us Until They Kill Us by Hanif Abdurraqib They Can't Kill Us Until They Kill Us a book by Hanif AbdurraqibThe Folk by Ross Cole The Folk: Music, Modernity, and the Political Imagination a book by Ross ColeDenim and Leather by Michael Hann Denim and Leather: The Rise and Fall of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal a book by Michael HannSound Within Sound by Kate Molleson Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century a book by Kate MollesonYou can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.ukFinally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, March 23, 2023

18 Paul Du Noyer on 'Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning'

Season 2, Ep. 8
This week's Songbook guest, music journalist and author Paul Du Noyer, has interviewed some of the most famous musicians of all time, including Madonna, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Amy Winehouse and Paul McCartney. He chats to Jude about Nik Cohn's groundbreaking and thrilling history of 1960s rock, Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning.The discussion also takes in Paul's Liverpool childhood and the huge impact of The Beatles, his storied career in the music press, interviewing the iconic Amy Winehouse, and much more.Books mentioned in the podcast:Conversations With McCartney by Paul Du Noyer Conversations with McCartney a book by Paul Du Noyer. (bookshop.org)John by Cynthia Lennon John a book by Cynthia Lennon. (bookshop.org)Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom by Nik Cohn Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning a book by Nik Cohn. (bookshop.org)The Beatles: The Authorised Biography by Hunter Davies The Beatles: The Authorised Biography a book by Hunter Davies. (bookshop.org)I'm Coming To Take You To Lunch: A fantastic tale of boys, booze and how Wham! were sold to China by Simon Napier-Bell I'm Coming To Take You To Lunch: A fantastic tale of boys, booze and how Wham! were sold to China a book by Simon Napier-Bell. (bookshop.org)Black Vinyl White Powder by Simon Napier-Bell Black Vinyl White Powder by Simon Napier-Bell | WaterstonesUp The Junction by Nell Dunn Up The Junction: A Virago Modern Classic a book by Nell Dunn. (bookshop.org)You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.ukThe Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, March 9, 2023

16 Emma Warren on 'All Crews'

Season 2, Ep. 6
Music journalist and author Emma Warren joins Jude on this week's episode of Songbook to discuss Brian Belle-Fortune's in-depth, self-published history, All Crews: Journeys Through Jungle/Drum & Bass.They also cover a multitude of topics including the challenges and joys of self-publishing, the 90s outside of britpop, the bravery of being the first person on the dance floor, and much more.Emma's new book Dance Your Way Home: A Journey Through the Dancefloor is an intimate foray onto the dancefloor, part-memoir, part-social and cultural history, publishing on 16th March 2023 Dance Your Way Home: A Journey Through the Dancefloor a book by Emma Warren. (bookshop.org)Books mentioned in the podcast:Make Some Space: Tuning Into Total Refreshment Centre by Emma Warren *Audiobook* Make Some Space: Tuning into Total Refreshment Centre | Emma Warren | Sweet Machine Publishing (bandcamp.com)Document Your Culture by Emma Warren *Audiobook* Document Your Culture | Emma Warren | Sweet Machine Publishing (bandcamp.com)Bass, Mids, Tops: An Oral History of Sound System Culture by Joe Muggs and Brian David Stevens Bass, Mids, Tops: An Oral History of Sound System Culture a book by Joe Muggs and Brian David Stevens. (bookshop.org)All Crews by Brian Belle-Fortune All Crews Book - All CrewsA Choreographer's Handbook by Jonathan Burrows A Choreographer's Handbook a book by Jonathan Burrows. (bookshop.org)Reggae Bloodlines: In Search of the Music and Culture of Jamaica by Stephen Davis and Peter Simon Reggae Bloodlines: In Search of the Music and Culture of Jamaica by Simon, Peter,Davis, Stephen: Good Paperback (1992) | WeBuyBooks (abebooks.co.uk)A Quick Ting On Afrobeats by Christian Adofo A Quick Ting On Afrobeats a book by Christian Adofo. (bookshop.org)You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org) Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, March 2, 2023

15 Jeffrey Boakye on 'The Rap Year Book'

Season 2, Ep. 5
Author, broadcaster and educator Jeffrey Boakye is this week's Songbook guest, joining Jude to discuss Shea Serrano's acclaimed rap history book The Rap Year Book. Their insightful and often inspiring conversation takes in the role that music can play in teaching, hip hop as party music, the cultural and political power of rap, and much more.Jeffrey's 2021 book Musical Truth: A Musical Journey Through Modern Black Britain has been described as "engaging and accomplished… perfectly judged for young readers" by the Guardian - Musical Truth: A Musical Journey Through Modern Black Britain a book by Jeffrey Boakye and Ngadi Smart. (bookshop.org)Books mentioned in the podcast: The Rap Year Book by Shea Serrano The Rap Year Book: The Most Important Rap Song From Every Year Since 1979, Discussed, Debated, and Deconstructed a book by Shea Serrano and Arturo TorresThe Music Instinct by Philip Ball The Music Instinct: How Music Works and Why We Can't Do Without It a book by Philip BallHold Tight by Jeffrey Boakye Hold Tight: Black Masculinity, Millennials and the Meaning of Grime [New Edition] a book by Jeffrey BoakyeBlack, Listed by Jeffrey Boakye Black, Listed: Black British Culture Explored a book by Jeffrey BoakyeI Heard What You Said by Jeffrey Boakye I Heard What You Said: A black teacher. A white system. A revolution in education. a book by Jeffrey BoakyeInner City Pressure: The Story of Grime by Dan Hancox Inner City Pressure: The Story of Grime a book by Dan HancoxThe Commitments by Roddy Doyle The Commitments a book by Roddy DoyleDecoded by Jay-Z Decoded by Jay Z | WaterstonesYou can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org) Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, February 23, 2023

14 Cosey Fanni Tutti on 'An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics'

Season 2, Ep. 4
Groundbreaking musician, performance artist, and writer Cosey Fanni Tutti joins Jude on this week's episode of Songbook to delve in to Daphne Oram's An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics- a remarkable study of the relationship between electronic music and technology, origninally published in 1972.Their conversation also takes in Cosey's memories of listening to pop music as a child, her relationship with her hometown of Hull, and the importance of abandoning pre-conceptions when listening to music.Cosey's 2022 book Re-Sisters: The Lives and Recordings of Delia Derbyshire, Margery Kempe and Cosey Fanni Tutti is a vital meditation on womanhood, creativity and self-expression, and a revelatory exploration into the lives of three visionary artists - Re-Sisters: The Lives and Recordings of Delia Derbyshire, Margery Kempe and Cosey Fanni Tutti a book by Cosey Fanni Tutti. (bookshop.org)Books mentioned in the podcast:Art Sex Music by Cosey Fanni Tutti Art Sex Music a book by Cosey Fanni Tutti. (bookshop.org)An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics by Daphne Oram Daphne Oram - an Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics a book by Daphne Oram. (bookshop.org)Quantum Listening by Pauline Oliveros Quantum Listening a book by Pauline Oliveros. (bookshop.org)Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century by Kate Molleson Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century a book by Kate Molleson. (bookshop.org)Up Above the City, Down Beneath the Stars by Barry Adamson Up Above the City, Down Beneath the Stars a book by Barry Adamson. (bookshop.org)You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, February 16, 2023

13 Bob Stanley on 'The House That George Built'

Season 2, Ep. 3
Saint Etienne musician and music journalist Bob Stanley appears on this week's Songbook to discuss The House That George Built, Wilfrid Sheed's acclaimed history of the Golden Age of the American song.The conversation also covers everything from abandoned Saint Etienne albums to Bob's experience of writing music for film soundtracks, and the impact that being a music critic has had on his own career as a musician.Bob's 2022 book, Let's Do It: The Birth of Pop was described as "wide-ranging and learned, opinionated and funny, and justly critically acclaimed" by the Guardian - Let's Do It: The Birth of Pop a book by Bob Stanley. (bookshop.org)Books mentioned in the podcast:The House That George Built: With a Little Help from Irving, Cole, and a Crew of about Fifty by Wilfrid Sheed 9780812970180: The House That George Built: With a Little Help from Irving, Cole, and a Crew of about Fifty - Sheed, Wilfrid: 0812970187 - AbeBooksYeah Yeah Yeah by Bob Stanley Yeah Yeah Yeah: The Story of Modern Pop a book by Bob Stanley. (bookshop.org)A Wop Bopaloo Bop Alop Bam Boom by Nick Cohn A Wop Bopaloo Bop Alop Bam Boom. Pop- History. by Nik Cohn | medimops (abebooks.co.uk)England's Dreaming: The Sex Pistols and Punk Rock England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)Rhythm And The Blues: A Life in American Music by Jerry Wexler Rhythm And The Blues: A Life in American Music by Jerry Wexler: GOOD Hardcover (1993) | Discover Books (abebooks.co.uk)The Tastemaker: My Life with the Legends and Geniuses of Rock Music by Tony King The Tastemaker: My Life with the Legends and Geniuses of Rock Music a book by Tony King. (bookshop.org)What Was Lost by Catherine O'Flynn & E.A. What Was Lost a book by Catherine O'Flynn and E.A Markham. (bookshop.org)You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
Thursday, February 9, 2023

12 Danyel Smith on 'I, Tina'

Season 2, Ep. 2
American author, journalist and editor Danyel Smith drops by to discuss I, Tina: My Life Story, the 1986 autobiography of the inimitable Tina Turner.They also discuss Danyel's childhood love of pop, the ever-changing nature of fan culture in music, how people misunderstand and underestimate the power of African-American women in the music industry, and much more.A fascinating and joyous conversation. Danyel's Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop was named the best music book of 2022 by Pitchfork - Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop a book by Danyel Smith (bookshop.org)Books mentioned in the podcast:I, Tina: My Life Story by Tina Turner I, Tina: My Life Story a book by Tina Turner and Kurt Loder (bookshop.org)Flip The Script: How Women Came To Rule Hip Hop Flip The Script: How Women Came to Rule Hip Hop a book by Arusa Qureshi. (bookshop.org)Soul Survivor by P.P. Arnold Soul Survivor: The Autobiography: The extraordinary memoir of a music icon a book by P.P. Arnold. (bookshop.org)Lady Sings The Blues by Billie Holiday Lady Sings the Blues a book by Billie Holiday. (bookshop.org)Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley by Peter Guralnik Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley a book by Peter Guralnick. (bookshop.org)Rock She Wrote: Women Write About Rock, Pop, and Rap edited by Evelyn McDonnell & Ann Powers Rock She Wrote a book by Ann Powers and Evelyn McDonnell (bookshop.org)Her Name Is Barbara by Jim Smith B Her Name Is Barbra a book by Jim Smith (bookshop.org)You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo