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You Don’t Need Millions to Slow Aging | Julie Gibson Clark

Ep. 70
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What happens when your body completely crashes and you have no energy to get off the couch?


For Julie Gibson Clark, that moment became the turning point. After being diagnosed with heavy metal poisoning, she began a journey that would transform not only her health, but how she thinks about aging, wellness, and self-discipline taking her to the leaderboard of the Rejuvenation Olympics worldwide (a public leaderboard ranking biological aging via epigenetic clocks), and currently ageing at only 65 days per 100 days. Julie shares her accessible approach to longevity - blending science, intuition, and a healthy dose of self-compassion. From structured routines and strength training to intuitive fasting, oxalates, supplements, and spiritual rituals, Julie unpacks the systems she uses to feel younger, stronger, and more grounded.


This is a conversation about real-life longevity - without $10k-a-month protocols or lab coats. Just honesty, experimentation, and a deep respect for beauty and balance.


We cover:

  • 🧬 Heavy metal poisoning
  • 🥗 The menu - 100g protein and 1lb of veggies
  • 💪 Why strength training is a longevity foundation
  • 🔄 Using fasting-mimicking diets to reset & recover
  • 🧠 The “inner general” vs. self-compassion - when to push, when to rest
  • 🧪 How to experiment with your own protocol (without perfectionism)


This is longevity, lived.


Find Julie:

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Mentioned in this episode:

Book - The Longevity Diet by Valter Longo

Book - Lifespan by David Sinclair

Book - The Complete Guide to Fasting by Jason Fung

NOVOS Core supplement - longevity blend

Rejuvenation Olympics


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