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Kate and Brodie talk about Stuff Again, this time the things that tempted them during Black Friday. They discuss the queer dance party of the season – no, not the Troye Sivan show; Kate's partner's birthday party!!!Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear our recent gift guide episode, future bonuses, and every episode ad-free and early. Or: gift a membership to a See Also fan in your life!We follow the brick road whose shape – but not its colour – is protected by stringent copyright law to Shiz University, where we had a GREAT TIME!!!! And then avoid doing accent work to chat about the brilliant TV adaptation of Patrick Radden Keefe's book, Say Nothing.Don't forget to grab your tickets to our screening of Carol at Thornbury Picture House on 17 December!See AlsosWild at Heart (for Laura Palmer Glinda)Girl, Interrupted (for Clea Duvall playing a Wizard of Oz obsessive (and pathological liar))Return to Oz (based mainly on the book Ozma of Oz)Patrick Raddan Keefe's original New Yorker essayKneecap, screening in Aus cinemas nowThe Crying GameThe Disappeared Craic Pack: How the Irish Came to Rule Pop CultureAlso Alsos Film Map on TumblrSweethearts – dir by Jordan Weiss, on BingeFashion Neurosis with Bella FreudGood Morning's new album, The AccidentE Nolan pop–up, Thurs–Sun until 22 Dec – 43 Derby St, CollingwoodThe Season by Helen Garner

You asked, we recommended. In our holiday gift guide, which you can listen to in full when you join The Hogg Hive over on Patreon, we recommend gifts for "the Rebel Wilson in the family", Diane Keaton in The Family Stone, and many genres of dad.To listen to the full version of this bonus episode, support See Also on Patreon!For just $5 USD / $8.50 AUD a month, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays. No days off!Weekly posts in your email with all the episode links & show notesAccess to special Q&A episodes (like this one!) & occasional bonus episodesFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhJoin the Hogg Hive at patreon.com/seealso

A different kind of episode – and one sans Also Alsos because we don't need any more things! (You DO need to get your tickets to our holiday screenings of CAROL though, don't forget.)Here are a few choice quotes we shared in this chat, and some recommended reading:“As I get older, I’m resentful of how much I have accumulated. I’m actually angry about it.” – Stacey LondonThe yard sale scene in Ghost World:Angry Garage Sale Woman : How much for this dress?Rebecca : God, I can't believe you're selling that.Enid : That's $500.Angry Garage Sale Woman : What?Enid : 500.Angry Garage Sale Woman : You're crazy. It should be like $2.Enid : I was wearing that when I lost my virginity.Angry Garage Sale Woman : Well, why do I care about that?Enid : Well, why do you want it? I mean, it would look stupid on you anyway.Angry Garage Sale Woman : God! Fuck you!“I work today with the manifesto that clutter is unresolved decisions.” – Megan Morton“I don’t buy that much new stuff at all. I get the thrill of a hunt, this one thing that nobody else has. I always think of it as part of my job and my business, so it’s okay, but I really just want less stuff. Why do I always want something new? What’s missing in me?” – Chloe Sevigny'Does it bring you joy?' vs. 'If it was covered in shit would you throw it away or clean it?' – Some random person on tikok"The first thing I tried to unload was four folk-art handbags, each constructed out of braided cigarette-pack wrappers by incarcerated Americans in the nineteen-fifties and sixties. I’d amassed the collection in the nineties, on eBay, for reasons that now elude me." – Patricia Marx"The trick to buying things you don’t regret is looking all the time and rarely buying. Spend days wandering in and out of shops the way snooty snoots plunder through galleries. Try on things that are popular or appeal to you without any intention of buying them. Look at things way outside your budget and at fast fashion brands. (Canal Street and the New Arrivals at Shein are a reporter/researcher’s best-kept trend cipher.) Do the same at vintage stores and Net-a-Porter and Mytheresa and all the good indie stores online (Worthwhile, Stand Up Comedy, Maimoun etc etc). Go to places like Outline and LaGarconne and ask the people working there to explain the brands and pieces to you. Try to keep cool headed and you’ll soon find that you know so much that you really know you’re being seduced instead of merely flirted with." – Rachel Tashjian in OPULENT TIPS #83See Alsos Raquel Caballero on Opposite EndsA Guide to Getting Rid of Almost EverythingWhat Jason Schwartzman can't live without Amy Sedaris's house tourCity of Yarra recycling centre

Don't forget to get your tickets to our holiday screenings of CAROL!This week Katie Janx from MUFF and Brodie Lancaster (not the boy from Albury Wodonga) have a couple of corrections about Francis Ford Coppola and the white rapper Addison Rae's mum actually dated. No one on Threads or Bluesky are funny, kind of like those chicks on RHONY. Jinxy is back on board with RHOSLC, but less so with Gladiator II. Brodie wants to work for Martha Stewart, and both of us kind of want to raid Guru Jagat aka Kundalini Katie's closet after watching Breath of Fire.Get more See Also when you sign up to the Hogg Hive on PatreonSee AlsosBL's column about Martha StewartHayley Phelan's Vanity Fair article, The Second Coming of Guru JagatThe Vanity Fair article about Breath of Fire, which is based on that Vanity Fair articleAlso AlsosNew Deborah Levy book, The Position Of SpoonsKim Deal's debut solo record Nobody Loves You MoreWill & Harper (Netflix)Ziggy Pleat Dress from ALPHA60 My Brilliant Career at MTC directed by Anne Louise SarksACMI's new program, Focus on Peter Weir (Wed 29 Jan – Fri 14 Feb 2025)

A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhMaybe you're in need of some comfort watching right now, and with the holidays just around the corner we've got three little words for you: You've Got Mail. This week Kate drops in on her dear pal and author Dan Jones on an autumnal day in New York to talk about Nora Ephron's beloved 1998 romcom starring Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, Parker Posey and ... Dave Chappelle?! Over a tumble of pumpkins and gourds, Dan and Kate talk haircuts, surprise cameos, catfishing and cosiness vs capitalism.See AlsosYou've Got Mail oral history in Vanity FairYou've Got Mail shooting locations by Refinery 29Out & About in the New York TimesArt of the Title interview with graphic designers Milton Glaser, Walter Bernard and Mirko IlićDan recommends 3 New York indie bookstoresQueer Bookstore at the CenterBooks Are MagicThe Center for Fiction

This week BL has sensory overload on the tram, Kate got a bad first email of the day, what did she learn about Amyl and the Sniffers from Brodie's profile of them?, going Chris Farley mode talking to Waxahatchee about Gilmore Girls, Kate's phone thinks she's someone else entirely, where were we on election day in 2016 and where have we come since?We discuss the performances and purposes of The Apprentice, then Brodie fills Kate in on Jason Reitman's Saturday Night and the latest episode of Saturday Night Live, Kate will NOT be putting on a pink cowgirl hat for Chappell Roan but that's okay, the internet is being insane about John Mulaney.While we're on the subject of pop girlies: Brodie is fanging to talk about Addison Rae, Kate and Brodie each have information to share each other about Sabrina Carpenter, "Barry Keoghan's wife should be hosting SNL".Then it's time to debrief on the little indie flick called Megalopolis, we're mad at Joaquin Phoenix but he looks really good, Frances Ford Coppola gave Kate the gift of Pepsi Max.We've both watched Fanatical: the Catfishing of Tegan and Sara, a documentary that made us remember the good songs and the L Word episode, and debate "Fegan" and the merits of a directors inserting themselves into a show. Kristen Stewart in Twilight lost a Saturday to unnecessary research.Our next screening at Thornbury Picture House is a lesbian holiday classic: Todd Haynes' CAROL (2015)Join us on Dec 17 for two screenings – 6pm and 8:30pm – with a post-film chat, plus a special martini.Get your tickets!Keep an eye on our IG to submit your requests for our holiday gift guide + advice column!See AlsoWhere's My Roy Cohn?Live From New YorkSean Price William on Addison Rae in DazedThe English Teacher – streaming on Disney Plus and HuluCelebrity Book Club 'Club Kids' episode on FanaticalCasey Affleck and Rain Phoenix's kidMartha Stewart responds to Ina Garten's book on WWHLMarisa Meltzer review in NYTimesAlso AlsosThe Row playlistsDistant Call: Collected Demos 2000–2006Culture StudyStructure Face Sculpt facial at Little CompanyMartha on NetflixTHE FIRST AND LAST OF ENGLAND: THE QUEER LEGACIES OF DEREK JARMAN at Melbourne Cinematheque 6–20 Nov

Before we get to the terrors of contemporary life, it’s time for Kate and Brodie to chat about their holidays. Kate went to London, Cornwall, Paris, New York and LA, and Brodie went to Tokyo and Hanoi. They agree that Christine Vachon would’ve had a conniption at Pudong international airport in Shanghai, discuss the eras of Keira Knightley, rice porridge, Alexei Toliopoulos and Zachary Ruane's Refused Classification.There's a TV dispatch: on lying about owning Pioneertown in Selling Sunset, Perfect Couple and doing lots of Irish accents, lesbian witches in Agatha All Along and lesbian housewives in RHONY, (Ryan) Murphy's Law states we gotta talk about Monsters.Also: Alsos!Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear this week's bonus episode all about our holidays.Brodie is joining Lauren Taylor & Simon Winkler on Nov 16 at Hope Street for Good Question. See Also listeners can get 30% off their tickets for the Nov 16 workshop with the code SEEALSO. Get your ticket here.See AlsosBetween the Temples @ JIFFGuy Blackman's vinyl reissue of Adult BabyNew single from Harvey SutherlandAlso AlsosSoccer Mommy's new album EvergreenYou Beauty by Mish GrigorReal Housewives of Salt Lake City on HayuSabah Bolo slippersCabeau travel pillowMojave Ghost by Byredo

On this week's See Also, Kate's in LA and visiting your other favourite podcasters – Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni from Every Outfit! We chat about celeb (and celeb adjacent) spotting at the Chateau Marmont, cybertrucks, lesbian manicures, London, Gollum Girls, and their upcoming Every Outfit Down Under Tour coming to Australia & New Zealand in December.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear ad-free and bonus episodes of See Also.Also Alsos from Chelsea & LaurenSimone Rocha book by RizzoliFever Tree tonics, drinks & mixerskit: facial compatibility cleanser (discontinued, a cry for help)Huda Beauty Faux Filter Under Eye Colour CorrectorEdie Parker Soft Serve Lighter HolderSugar Baby directed by Lauren GarroniAccidental Also Alsos from KateCafé CeciliaLiberty Designer Vintage