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125: The Ex-wives who should get to host SNL
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This week BL has sensory overload on the tram, Kate got a bad first email of the day, what did she learn about Amyl and the Sniffers from Brodie's profile of them?, going Chris Farley mode talking to Waxahatchee about Gilmore Girls, Kate's phone thinks she's someone else entirely, where were we on election day in 2016 and where have we come since?
We discuss the performances and purposes of The Apprentice, then Brodie fills Kate in on Jason Reitman's Saturday Night and the latest episode of Saturday Night Live, Kate will NOT be putting on a pink cowgirl hat for Chappell Roan but that's okay, the internet is being insane about John Mulaney.
While we're on the subject of pop girlies: Brodie is fanging to talk about Addison Rae, Kate and Brodie each have information to share each other about Sabrina Carpenter, "Barry Keoghan's wife should be hosting SNL".
Then it's time to debrief on the little indie flick called Megalopolis, we're mad at Joaquin Phoenix but he looks really good, Frances Ford Coppola gave Kate the gift of Pepsi Max.
We've both watched Fanatical: the Catfishing of Tegan and Sara, a documentary that made us remember the good songs and the L Word episode, and debate "Fegan" and the merits of a directors inserting themselves into a show. Kristen Stewart in Twilight lost a Saturday to unnecessary research.
Our next screening at Thornbury Picture House is a lesbian holiday classic: Todd Haynes' CAROL (2015)
Join us on Dec 17 for two screenings – 6pm and 8:30pm – with a post-film chat, plus a special martini.
Keep an eye on our IG to submit your requests for our holiday gift guide + advice column!
See Also
Where's My Roy Cohn?
Live From New York
Sean Price William on Addison Rae in Dazed
The English Teacher – streaming on Disney Plus and Hulu
Celebrity Book Club 'Club Kids' episode on Fanatical
Casey Affleck and Rain Phoenix's kid
Martha Stewart responds to Ina Garten's book on WWHL
Marisa Meltzer review in NYTimes
Also Alsos
Distant Call: Collected Demos 2000–2006
Structure Face Sculpt facial at Little Company
Martha on Netflix
THE FIRST AND LAST OF ENGLAND: THE QUEER LEGACIES OF DEREK JARMAN at Melbourne Cinematheque 6–20 Nov
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126: You've Got Mail (Poodle episode) feat. Dan Jones
01:13:20|A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhMaybe you're in need of some comfort watching right now, and with the holidays just around the corner we've got three little words for you: You've Got Mail. This week Kate drops in on her dear pal and author Dan Jones on an autumnal day in New York to talk about Nora Ephron's beloved 1998 romcom starring Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, Parker Posey and ... Dave Chappelle?! Over a tumble of pumpkins and gourds, Dan and Kate talk haircuts, surprise cameos, catfishing and cosiness vs capitalism.See AlsosYou've Got Mail oral history in Vanity FairYou've Got Mail shooting locations by Refinery 29Out & About in the New York TimesArt of the Title interview with graphic designers Milton Glaser, Walter Bernard and Mirko IlićDan recommends 3 New York indie bookstoresQueer Bookstore at the CenterBooks Are MagicThe Center for Fiction123: The world is big and we're in it
01:14:35|Before we get to the terrors of contemporary life, it’s time for Kate and Brodie to chat about their holidays. Kate went to London, Cornwall, Paris, New York and LA, and Brodie went to Tokyo and Hanoi. They agree that Christine Vachon would’ve had a conniption at Pudong international airport in Shanghai, discuss the eras of Keira Knightley, rice porridge, Alexei Toliopoulos and Zachary Ruane's Refused Classification.There's a TV dispatch: on lying about owning Pioneertown in Selling Sunset, Perfect Couple and doing lots of Irish accents, lesbian witches in Agatha All Along and lesbian housewives in RHONY, (Ryan) Murphy's Law states we gotta talk about Monsters.Also: Alsos!Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear this week's bonus episode all about our holidays.Brodie is joining Lauren Taylor & Simon Winkler on Nov 16 at Hope Street for Good Question. See Also listeners can get 30% off their tickets for the Nov 16 workshop with the code SEEALSO. Get your ticket here.See AlsosBetween the Temples @ JIFFGuy Blackman's vinyl reissue of Adult BabyNew single from Harvey SutherlandAlso AlsosSoccer Mommy's new album EvergreenYou Beauty by Mish GrigorReal Housewives of Salt Lake City on HayuSabah Bolo slippersCabeau travel pillowMojave Ghost by Byredo122: Poltergeist
42:32|It knows what scares you.It's spooky time, and Kate and Brodie venture back to 1982 to recap Tobe Hooper's classic Poltergeist. We discuss the Spielberg "collaboration", Zelda Rubenstein's incredible performance and advocacy, the obsession with undies, and the reality behind the "curse".See AlsosOral history: Poltergeist at 40Griffin Dunne: Friday Afternoon Club interviewA Father's Account of the Trial of his Daughter's KillerFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast121: Every Outfit x See Also
57:48|On this week's See Also, Kate's in LA and visiting your other favourite podcasters – Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni from Every Outfit! We chat about celeb (and celeb adjacent) spotting at the Chateau Marmont, cybertrucks, lesbian manicures, London, Gollum Girls, and their upcoming Every Outfit Down Under Tour coming to Australia & New Zealand in December.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear ad-free and bonus episodes of See Also.Also Alsos from Chelsea & LaurenSimone Rocha book by RizzoliFever Tree tonics, drinks & mixerskit: facial compatibility cleanser (discontinued, a cry for help)Huda Beauty Faux Filter Under Eye Colour CorrectorEdie Parker Soft Serve Lighter HolderSugar Baby directed by Lauren GarroniAccidental Also Alsos from KateCafé CeciliaLiberty Designer Vintage120: Ms Smarty Pants College Girl
47:16|On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie are cracking the spine on Kathleen Hanna's memoir, Rebel Girl: My Life as a Feminist Punk. We talk about our experiences crossing paths with Kathleen over the years, the things we learned (and didn't hear about) in this book and what it means to have Kathleen be the author of her own story finally.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear ad-free and bonus episodes of See Also.119: Romy and Michele's High School Reunion (Poodle Episode)
46:02|We're both overseas at the moment so pulled this classic ep out of the archives!This week, Kate and Brodie are digging into the source material, backstory, iconic moments and sexy highlighter costumes of the outcast classic: Romy and Michele's High School Reunion. Jinxy also coins a great new abbreev: et cet. There might not be Also Alsos this week, but don't worry, there's still plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.It's 1997 and Romy White and Michele Weinberger, best friends and fun cool party girls who live in Venice Beach, find out their 10 year high school reunion is coming up. As all the old, buried teenage insecurities re-emerge, Romy insists they need to improve themselves before coming face-to-face with their high school bullies, by getting more impressive jobs, finding boyfriends and SOMEHOW losing weight. Once they get closer to the event, they find themselves lying about their lives and losing one another for a few hours, before reuniting just in time to resolve all their high school trauma with (what else?) a dance scene.See AlsosMira Sorvino's Oscars speechLA times review of Ladies' RoomRonan Farrow's early reporting on WeinsteinAn Oral History of Romy and Michele's High School ReunionJaneane Garofalo Never Sold Out. What a ReliefHow Hollywood can make it up to the actresses Harvey Weinstein smearedMira Sorvino answers all our Romy and Michele questionsWatch AlsoThe ComebackReality BitesFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast118: The Hairy Bird (Poodle episode) feat. Anton De Ionno
01:31:37|A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhDescribed as "Dead Poet's Society meets Clueless", The Hairy Bird is a 1998 film written and directed by Sarah Kernochan. Inspired by her time as a student at the Connecticut girls' boarding school Rosemary Hall in the 1960s, the film follows new student Odette Sinclair (Gaby Hoffman) as she meets the ICONIQUE headmistress Miss McVane (Lynn Redgrave) and falls in with a new clique led by Kirsten Dunst's Verena Von Stefan. No sooner is Odie welcomed in than their friend Tweetie (my girl Heather Matarazzo) overhears the school board's plans to merge Miss Godard's into a co-ed school with the nearby St Ambrose Academy. This sets the films antics into motion, pits the boy crazy Tweetie and Tinka, an aspiring "actress-folk singer-slut", against Verena and brainiac Momo (our girl Merritt Wever) and eventually leads Odie to stage a sit-in to demand the girls at Miss Godard's have a voice in the future of their school.Brodie is joined by her bff Anton De Ionno to discuss the sad saga behind this film's release, its legacy in our lives and many spiritual connections to Gilmore Girls.See AlsosHaley Mlotek's piece in MetrographInterview with Sarah Kernochan in Business Insider + in Flashback Films26 years before The Holdovers, Disney buried the best boarding school comedyPeter Biskind’s 2004 book Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent FilmAnton recommendsAn Unmarried WomanLove Is a Drag: For Adult Listeners Onlydry-humping116: Full-tilt Boogie
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