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Don't forget: we're hosting two screenings of Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life, at Thornbury Picture House on June 25. That's next week! Tickets are on sale now and going fast.Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to support the podcast.This week, Kate and Brodie go deep on Miranda July's new novel, All Fours. BUT NOW WE SAID IT. (Sorry to Camille Grammer, who Kate realised actually said that long after the mics switched off. She really said that.) We cover the plot, the perimenopause of it all, how it queers traditional relationship dynamics, the polyp, how to recommend Miranda July to other people, Kate's experience of embroidering and carving next to her, and Give Us Back The Stuff We Loaned To You Ages Ago!!!!See Also listeners in Melbourne can get 20% off their purchase of All Fours at My Local Bookshop. Simply enter the code SEEALSO20 at checkout, select Click and Collect, and pop in to Brunswick Street Bookstore, Avoca Hill Bookstore or Coventry Bookstore to pick it up. If you're shopping IRL, just mention the podcast at the checkout to claim your discount.

We're hosting two screenings of Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life, at Thornbury Picture House on June 25. Tickets are on sale now!Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to support the podcast!This week, Kate has shared air with Austin Butler, has popped into Lucky Kwong one last time, and is furious at HBO Max for teasing the majick community with a fakeout Practical Magic announcement. Brodie has discovered she loves lasers, has been listening to BRAT and and invites about boutique hotels – associated with Girlbosses or otherwise – to invite us to stay and pod. We LOVE sleep!!Together, we discuss the MIFF First Glance announcement and our trip into the city to see The First Bad Man, a book club based on the book by Miranda July.Speaking of! Next week we're going to be discussing Miranda July's new book All Fours. We're obsessed. If you're yet to buy a copy, we've got a special deal for you :)See Also listeners in Melbourne can get 20% off their purchase of All Fours at My Local Bookshop. Simply enter the code SEEALSO20 at checkout, select Click and Collect, and pop in to Brunswick Street Bookstore, Avoca Hill Bookstore or Coventry Bookstore to pick it up. If you're shopping IRL, just mention the podcast at the checkout to claim your discount.Also AlsosThe Garden Against Time by Olivia LaingMuli Express oyster barKylie Kwong’s stir-fried Australian native greens with garlic 'Deep Forest' incense (and companion cassette) by Agaric Fly x Butter SessionsWords and Music, a reissue/collection of music by Margo Guryan Shulz Dairy 'milk in glass' program

We're hosting two screenings of Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life, at Thornbury Picture House on June 25. Tickets are on sale now!Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to support the podcast!This week, Kate is catching up on sleep and thinking about whether slowness can save us. Brodie is railing against the culture of lining up for sandwiches and frozen yoghurt. Then: a live unboxing! Jinxy brought BL a cute gift back from LA!Jinxy has some huge reccs for Sydney Film Festival, and will be seeing Our Austin Butler IRL. SPEAKING OF: We simply need to discuss THE Baz Lurhmann TikTok video.Then, a debrief on season 3 of Hacks, season 2 of Loot and Palm Royale. RT does NOT equal endorsement, turns out. Justice for Ricky Martin, though.See AlsosKate's review of ‘Menus-Plaisirs’ and ‘La Cocina’ in The MonthlyCan Slowness Save Us?The Baz Lurhmann TikTok videoBaz @ Harry StylesEveryone in This TV Show Should Be SmokingAlso AlsosKate's 10 tips for films at SFF (that are not sold out at the time of recording) are: Dahomey, A Different Man, Eephus, Grand Tour, Menu Plaisirs–Trois Gros, the Substance, Problemista, Sasquatch Sunset, The Substance, PepeMelbourne Out Loud: life through the lens of Rennie Ellis, on at State Library Victoria til JanuaryEvery Outfit is coming to Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, Auckland in DecemberBrodie's two new fave true crime pods: Once Upon a Time in Nashville + Trial By Water Tap is Fine! newsletter by Khushbu ShahReading Room gallery + Back Room shop on High St in Northcote

Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon for ad-free episodes every week, and some upcoming bonus episodes.Kate's back from Cannes! She and BL catch up on the last films of the festival and her journey in the Tom Crui-niverse. BL went to see Nan Goldin's The Ballad of Sexual Dependency in Ballarat and is very excited to tell you about the two special editions of the mX she guest-edited for RISING this year!This week, Brodie is joined by Lucia Aniello for a chat about Hacks, a recent visit to Schwartz and Sandy's, the Tom Cruise Coconut Cake and some incredible recommendations. Lucia is the co-creator, -writer, -producer, -director and showrunner of Hacks, along with Paul W. Downs and Jen Statsky. She was a director on Broad City and the Netflix reboot of The Babysitters Club (vale queen!!!!!), and she and Paul co-wrote and -directed the film Rough Night and the webseries Time-Traveling Bong, which BL recommended way back in episode 8!See AlsoAn interview with Hacks' costume designerLucia and Paul on Talk EasyReal Housewives of South BostonAlso AlsosLucia recommends: Mary and George, On Writing by Stephen King, buying a pair of socks when you're visiting a new placeBrodie recommends: the fresh-squeezed OJ from Northcote IGA, Renee Gracie: Fireproof on Stan(nes), The Uncoupling by Meg Wolitzer (and the related story, ‘Mitzvah Night Is CANCELLED’ Inside the sex strike that has infuriated husbands and shaken the ultra-Orthodox world by Talia Lavin in the Cut)Kate recommends: Officine Universelle Buly bath salts, 'How 3M Discovered, Then Concealed, the Dangers of Forever Chemicals' by Sharon Lerner, the AirFly Pro Deluxe Bluetooth Transmittor.

A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhSee Also is 100! But you'd never tell because we moisturise. Thank you for listening to and enjoying the pod – it's a pleasure to bring you silly-smart conversations every week.Also celebrating their birthdays this week are Sofia Coppola – who turned 53 on Tuesday – and her debut feature The Virgin Suicides, which came out 25 years ago. To mark two of these three occasions (guess which), Kate and Brodie go deep on the Lisbon sisters and the boys who loved them.Even if you're seen the film a million times, it holds up to a re-watch – trust us.We cover the Eugenides BTS cynicism, Hartnett at his prime, Trip's gay dad(s), the time Brodie met Kathleen Turner, memory's flimsy logic and the time Kate first tried Pepsi Max, the comedy Sofia never gets credit for and the image-making she's so skilled at, the boys who'll always remember and the girls who were never really theirs/there.See Alsos“The Virgin Suicides” Still Holds the Mysteries of Adolescence by Emma Cline“They Hadn’t Heard Us Calling” by Megan AbbottWhy I’m obsessed with this dark, dreamy novel" by Dizz TateSofia Coppola’s Bedrooms by Katie McDonoughScores on Screen. Clouds Up: Air and the Soundtrack of "The Virgin Suicides" by Clare Nina NorelliJosh Hartnett on THE kissDan Levy's story of visiting the set Kiki in Interview in 2000Sofia Coppola x Tavi Gevinson in RookieTavi Gevinson on The Virgin Suicides in NPR in 2012Bill Owens book 'Suburbia'Idea LTDAir will play Moon Safari at the Sydney Opera House for VIVID

Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to hear an extended version of this week's episode, featuring our off-the-cuff Met Gala reactions.This episode opens with a live review of the Hailey Bieber smoothie from Erewhon. Jinxy's sipping her way across LA, and fills us in on brunch at Canter's, an iconic but annoying day out with Angelyne at the Pleasure Chest, and an enviable visit to Noodle Stories. She's hit the Vanderpump Triangle in WeHo – but only to Bottega Louie, not TomTom (yet).BL goes deep on a night with Niall Horan and a life-changing day at SPUDFEST in Trentham. Is she the spudman after all?Then it's time for a discussion of our favourite Highsmith menacing gay, Tom Ripley, and the latest Netflix iteration of the guy who "likes" "girls", from creator/writer Steve Zaillan.See AlsosThe Garden Against Time by Olivia LaingThe American Friend (1977) by Wim WendersThe Night OfAlso AlsosHere in the Pitch by Jessica PrattHacks season 3 (on Stan in Australia)Ed Ruscha / Now Then retrospective at LACMASoft Services Software UpdateVegethreads Organic classic TArchive No. 1 by Hattie Stewart (with an intro by Brodie!)