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Part 2 of Jill Herschleb on Discovery-Based Research with Single-Cell Genomics
Jill Herschleb, senior director of cell biology at 10x Genomics, talks about her path as a scientist and her work in building the tools that have helped make single-cell genomics the robust and flexible technology it is today.
Here is an informative video on single cell genomics and its use in the effort to make a comprehensive human cell map (aka, the Human Cell Atlas).
In Part 2 of this conversation, we discuss:
*the idea of a cell as a test tube in single-cell genomics, and setting up massively parallel (millions and millions!) experiments [1:58];
*the Human Cell Atlas is a Human Genome Project-type effort, but with throughput that dwarfs that of the 1990s [4:00];
*Single-cell perturb-seq — the evolution of the classic mutant screen [5:25];
*Mechanics of how single-cell analysis works —partitioning via droplets [8:30];
*Implications for drug discovery and development [9:40];
*How do we analyze all these data? [12:35];
*How scientist communities are changing [20:00];
*What Jill’s job at 10x Genomics is like [21:05];
*What trouble-shooting as a scientist at a biotech company looks like [26:00];
*Jill’s advice on how to progress in a scientific career [29:14];
*Connection to a California state high school science learning standard on engineering design [32:08];
*Jill’s memory from high school science — her AP Chemistry teacher conveying both the difficulty and possibility of doing well on the AP exam [36:51];
*Jill’s advice to high school students interested in science — first, science is fun, and remember that! make sure to find the joy in it, in whatever way, when it gets hard, and second, keep your eyes open to all of the various ways you can be a scientist. [40:13]
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13. Isotopes and Atomic Radius in Archaeology with Kelly Knudson
13:49||Season 3, Ep. 13Please click below to fill out the survey for this episode:Science Fare Podcast Feedback FormOur guest today is Kelly Knudson. This episode is an edited version of an episode released during Season One of the podcast. Kelly is a professor of Anthropology in the School of Human Evolution and Social Change at Arizona State University, and director of the Center for Bioarchaeological Research and the Archaeological Chemistry Laboratory.In this MINI episode, Kelly talks to us about how archaeologists use strontium isotopes to determine where things found at an archaeological site are from, and draws on the concept of periodic trends, specifically atomic radius, to talk about how strontium isotopes can substitute for calcium in bone. Tune in on Thursday for the full-length interview!Highlights of the episode:*Susan introduces Kelly and today’s topic [0:56];*Susan gives a quick overview of isotopes [2:20];*Kelly talks about how strontium isotopes help archaeologists determine where things at an archaeological site are from [4:00]; *Susan asks about the Arizona state high school chemistry standard that asks students to explain how the structure of atoms relates to patterns and properties seen in the periodic table [9:22];*Kelly explains that since strontium has a similar atomic radius as calcium because they are both in the same column of the periodic table — periodic trends! — strontium can substitute for calcium in bones [9:50]
12. Richard Edden on Hunting for GABA by Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy of the Brain
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14:35||Season 3, Ep. 11Please click below to fill out the survey for this episode:Science Fare Podcast Feedback FormOur guest today is Richard Edden. Richard is a professor in the department of Neuroradiology at Johns Hopkins University. He uses a tool — a technology, a method— called Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy (MRS) to study the brain. Richard’s group focuses on both method development — how can they make MRS better? More informative? — and also what the specific findings mean for brain health. In this MINI episode, Richard talks to us about spectroscopy and a particular kind of spectroscopy: nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy, also known as NMR (and more familiarly, MRI.) Richard talks about why electronegativity, a concept taught in high school and early college chemistry, is essential to how NMR works. Tune in on Thursday for the full-length interview!Highlights of the episode:*Susan introduces Richard and today’s topic [0:56];*Susan explains electronegativity and phrases the question to Richard [1:45];*Richard answers, beginning with an explanation of spectroscopy, starting with the visible light spectrum [3:12];*Richard describes NMR and how electronegativity influences it [4:23];*Richard talks about the features of molecules in our body and how NMR can help distinguish them [8:44]
10. Stephen Steiner on All Things Aerogel and a Life in Science
01:55:52||Season 3, Ep. 10Please click below to fill out the survey for this episode:Science Fare Podcast Feedback FormOur guest today is Stephen Steiner: President, CEO, and founder of Aerogel Technologies. Stephen has a PhD from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Materials Chemistry and Engineering which he completed in the Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and a Master’s Degree in Materials Science and Engineering, also from MIT. Stephen has such an interesting story of really falling in love with science at a young age and doing so many interesting things on both the discovery side and the business side of science, really focused on aerogels. Resources mentioned in this episode:Stephen’s Aerogel Website Photo of an aerogel - looks holographicAerogel Protects Chocolate from Blowtorch videoSearch “Supercritical Magic Carpet” on Youtube Search “World’s Lightest Solid” on Youtube Highlights of the episode:*Susan introduces Stephen and today’s topic [1:24];*Stephen tells us what aerogels are [3:20];*Stephen talks about his middle school science fair projects which he did for extra credit, not because he liked science — at first! [4:27];*Stephen’s high school science fair projects, now that he liked science! [6:09];*Stephen’s foray into competitive science seminar with a teacher who taught him the algorithm for creativity [9:30];*Things to consider when picking a research topic [12:23];*Stephen’s first foray into making an aerogel [15:28]; *Removing a liquid from a gel while preserving the gel-like structure in a process called supercritical drying [21:10];*Stephen decides to make an autoclave for supercritical drying [24:58];*After FORTY tries, Stephen makes his first aerogel in his basement, at age 17! [30:00];*Having a do-it-yourself attitude and persistence [35:14];*Stephen’s experience with normal science classes while he was conducting real research in his basement in middle and high school [37:05];*Undergrad institutions and what it takes to get in [45:04];*Stephen applying to graduate programs and getting into MIT [49:05];*Senior, established scientists like to help younger people who reach out for help [52:52];*Stephen’s commitment to sharing knowledge and making knowledge accessible [53:22];*Aerogels and their interesting properties [1:01:32];*Why aerogels are such good insulators — the Knudsen effect [1:04:52];*How do properties of elements perpetuate in aerogels made out of those elements? [1:10:27];*How aerogels were first invented [1:15:29];*Why making aerogels ends up breaking the ideal gas law [1:18:35];*What does it mean when PV no longer equals nRT? [1:20:53];*What is the critical point? Liquid and the gas become the same! [1:25:12];*Properties of supercritical fluids and the magic in watching them form [1:29:12];*Applications of aerogels kicked off by a listener question from Riley, a junior from the Chapin School, about aerogels and space travel [1:33:07];*The challenging problem of insulating cryogenic tanks for rockets and potential for polyimide aerogels to solve this [1:37:07];*What advice does Stephen have for students interested in science? Spoiler: Thorium! [1:45:40]
9. Breaking the Ideal Gas Law to Make Aerogels with Stephen Steiner MINI Episode
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8. Jodi Schottenfeld-Roames on Cell and Developmental Biology and Blending Research and Teaching with GUEST HOSTS Serena Bunkin and Riley McManus from the Bio Break Podcast
57:23||Season 3, Ep. 8Please click below to fill out the survey for this episode:Science Fare Podcast Feedback FormOur guest today is Jodi Schottenfeld-Roames. We also have guests hosts — Serena Bunkin and Riley McManus. Serena and Riley are juniors at The Chapin School and are co-hosts of the Bio Break podcast. Jodi is a lecturer in the Molecular Biology department at Princeton University. She teaches a research course for molecular biology majors in their junior year, she co-teaches a biology course for non-majors, and teaches in the Freshman Scholars Institute. Jodi’s research explores the genetic and cell biological requirements to form a branched tubular organ system, like our circulatory system for example. Links to resources or topics mentioned in this episode:Higher Educating — an article featuring Jodi’s teaching, written by Susan Keatley for the Princeton Alumni Weekly magazine Learn.Genetics: Genetic Science Learning Center (University of Utah)HHMI Biointeractive iBiology Highlights of the episode:*Susan introduces Jodi, Serena, and Riley and today’s topic [1:31];*Riley asks what led Jodi to pursue a career in science [2:55];*Serena asks Jodi about integrating research and teaching [10:30];*Jodi talks about the fall research course she teaches for junior molecular biology majors at Princeton [11:17];*Learning to be a scientist — going from learning the basics in introductory courses to asking questions and designing experiments to push science forward [13:45];*Susan asks about how Jodi eases this transition of learning to be a scientist for students [15:32];*Jodi describes genotypes and phenotypes, and talks about the work her students do to better understand this relationship in the fruit fly tracheal system [18:10];*Jodi shares some results from this work [24:45];*The amazing and beautiful shapes of cells [25:43];*Model systems — what are they? How are they helpful in biology? [28:20];*Riley comments on model systems and Jodi adds more — model systems help us get basic research done so we can do applied work (e.g., develop medicines) in humans [32:56];*Serena comments and talks about learning style and hands-on learning methods, then she asks how Jodi’s teaching has pushed her research forward and vice versa [36:13];*Jodi shares how research affects her teaching — the nature of a research class helps Jodi get to know each student deeply and understand what each student needs to learn, and also talks about how teaching impacts research [37:33];*Riley asks about teaching students who are not science majors [43:40];*Jodi talks about the importance of teaching science to non-majors and gives examples of when this knowledge could be useful like serving on a jury or facing a difficult diagnosis [44:20];*Susan asks Jodi about advice she would give to students interested in science - Jodi talks about free outreach events at nearby colleges [49:52];*Jodi recommends a few online resources for anyone wanting to learn more about biology (these are listed as links above in the show notes) [52:41]
7. Genotype and Phenotype with Jodi Schottenfeld-Roames and GUEST HOSTS Serena Bunkin and Riley McManus from the Bio Break Podcast
12:47||Season 3, Ep. 7Please click below to fill out the survey for this episode:Science Fare Podcast Feedback FormOur guest today is Jodi Schottenfeld-Roames. We also have guests hosts — Serena Bunkin and Riley McManus. Serena and Riley are juniors at The Chapin School and are co-hosts of the Bio Break podcast. Jodi is lecturer in the Molecular Biology department at Princeton University. She teaches a research course for molecular biology majors in their junior year, she co-teaches a biology course for non-majors, and teaches in the Freshman Scholars Institute. Jodi’s research explores the genetic and cell biological requirements to form a branched tubular organ system, like our circulatory system for example. In this MINI episode, Jodi talks about the relationship between genotype and phenotype, and how her lab conducts research to learn more about this connection in the fruit fly tracheal system. Tune in on Thursday for the full-length interview!Highlights of the episode:*Susan introduces Jodi, Serena, and Riley and today’s topic [0:56];*Jodi explains the terms genotype and phenotype and how they relate to each other [2:42];*Jodi describes the research she and her students do to better understand the genotype-phenotype connection in the fruit fly tracheal system [6:47];*What this works suggests about cell shape [9:22];
6. Elizabeth Benham on the Metric System and Measurement
55:58||Season 3, Ep. 6Please click below to fill out the survey for this episode:Science Fare Podcast Feedback FormElizabeth is the leader of the Metric Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, also known as NIST, in Gaithersburg, Maryland. In this role, Elizabeth serves as the national advocate for the International System of Units, known as the SI, in the United States. Our timing could also not be better, as this episode will air during Metric Week in the United States! October 5 - 11. Links to resources or topics mentioned in this episode:National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)NIST Metric Program Beyond Measure Redefining the the SI in 2018Kibble balance including video DIY Kibble balance video SI Teacher Kits from NISTTop 10 Tips for Teaching the Metric SystemUS Metric Association Science Fair Award Program US Metric Association National Metric Awards NIST Summer Undergraduate Research Fellowship (SURF)NIST Professional Research Experience Program (PREP)NIST International and Academic Affairs Office Highlights of the episode:*Susan introduces Elizabeth and today’s topic [1:43];*What led Elizabeth to pursue a career in metrology [3:06];*Origins of the metric system [12:15];*Metric system prefixes over the last 150 years [15:12];*Structure of the metric system — the units, constants, and prefixes [17:26];*Replacing the final physical objects of the metric system in 2018 [19:24];*Conventional versus the Kibble balance and impact on measurement accuracy [21:33];*The Metric Program and everything Elizabeth does as leader [26:55];*Metric system misconceptions [30:09];*Examples of the metric system in everyday life [33:40];*Visualizing volume with the metric system [37:27];*Science literacy and the metric system [39:08];*Importance of standardization in science and measurement [41:30];*Resources for students and teachers [43:50];*US Metric Association awards [48:56]; *NIST internships and professional development programs for middle school teachers [51:30]