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In this week’s talk Jay takes us on a bit of a deep dive into the nuances and complex layers of ‘The Church.’ He discusses the problem with living in a culture with such a long tradition of legalism and how that tends makes the Bible into a law book that we often give too much authority. This isn’t a destruction of the church or it’s ideals but an actual deconstruction, one done with love and understanding and a heart for reform and rebuilding – because Christianity as a formula doesn’t work, there is too much nuance to it all. Critical thinking isn’t always bad, critics also love things! We have to live well…because our time is so short. If your enemy died would you weep for them or rejoice? What responsibility do we need to take in our issues with The Church? Does the real world contain movie villains? What does suffering for Jesus really mean?


This talk was given on Sept 26, 2021 in Seattle, Washington.


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