Dr. Hinemoa Elder - Whānau, whakapapa and health (#14)
"Just being in the room with somebody who chooses to start talking about their pain is incredibly powerful. Just sitting there and nodding. Even if you’re thinking I’ve no idea I don’t know what to say, this is quite scary stuff. Just sitting with the person and saying I’m here with you, I’m here for you. I’m so glad that you’re talking about this. Just let them talk." - Dr. Hinemoa Elder.
Dr. Hinemoa Elder descends from Ngāti Kuri, Te Aupōuri, Te Rarawa and Ngāpuhi. She is a child and adolescent psychiatrist, working with whānau going through challenges we all hope to never face. She's also a professor of indigenous research, an NZ Order of Merit recipient for services to Māori and psychiatry, works for Māori and Aotearoa on a number of panels and is a champion of te reo Māori.
The ultimate aim of this podcast is to share whakaaro from people who have found a way to live a life they love so that others of us can try and do the same, so we start there.
Dr. Hinemoa is a psychiatrist, so of course, we talk about mental health, hauora and healing strategies, Māori trust in the health system and our vaccination rates. We talk about parenting in a healthy way. We reflect on the huge power of knowing your history and the stories of your tūpuna, the power of routine and lots more.
We didn’t get through all of the kōrero we wanted to, but we’ll be back for a second edition later!
We talk about suicide at a signals and prevention level, so if that’s triggering to you e te whānau, kia tūpato, please be careful.
But also, if like me, you worry you’re not equipped to help friends or whānau going through mental distress at that level, then I hope it's useful.
As well as the above, some of the topics we touch on in this kōrero are:
- Māori trust in the health system
- Talking about our pain, and listening to our people going through mental health distress
- The stereotypes we’ve created around tāne (men) in Aotearoa
- Signs we can be mindful of in whānau to tell us things might not be going well
- Holistic health care and its current state in the health system
- The impacts on our mental health of including Māori history at school
- The mix of independence, and interdependence for tamariki and the importance of community
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13. Tipene Harmer - tūpuna (ancestor) driven (#13)01:20:13“You’re either growing or you’re shrinking. We’re like plants, none of us stays the same. We’re living things. We’re either going this way to higher things or back this way, to death.” — Tipene HarmerTipene Harmer is a rapper, a kaiako (teacher) of mātauranga Māori, and an all-around awesome dude.Patreon whānau exclusive: my favourite tāonta from this kōrero was around decision making. I wrote about how I've been working on mine here.We spend the first chunk of the interview talking/geeking-out about Aotearoa hip-hop and the connection to te ao Māori and American culture, then we move onto our standard (delicious) fare of kai, how he got to the position of living a life he loves, what could have stopped him, his new album Heritage Trail, and a whole lot more.As well as the above, here are a few of the taonga (treasures) Tipene shares:The best advice he got from Scribe.The purpose and motivation behind his latest album. The motivation behind his first mixtape and forays into rap.Getting out of our own way.The power of decision making and the influences on those decisions. The hard way, and the hard way and how The strength we get from connection.The power of music and kotahitanga (bringing together). What he’s learned from the rangatahi he works with as a teacher.His song-writing process and how he used his song Turangawaewae to teach tīkanga marae to his students.How rap encouraged him to read.Hit subscribe in your podcast app if you want to hear more.Enjoyed the episode? Help us record more: If you want to help us share these conversations for positive change, please help by donating here: www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillasResources and mentionsDam NativeTakitimu bookQuestion: what was your favourite quote or lesson from this episode? Comment below and let us know!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)
12. PNC - Rap, psychology, and afakasi superpowers (#12)01:25:06Paperback Guerrillas Whānau exclusive: my favourite taonga (treasured idea) from this kōrero was sparked by PNC's comments on how much of a privilege it was growing up with his mother. It made me reflect on my own privilege. You can read about it on our Patreon page here.PNC is an award winning rapper also known as Sam Hansen. Wikipedia page.After nearly 20 years performing at a high level and acknowledged as one of Aotearoa's best rappers, Sam is studying psychology and in this kōrero we dive into the connection with music and wellness, culture and mental health, and Sam's experiences growing up as an afakasi (half-cast Samoan) man. Of course we discuss rap/hiphop and being an artist in Aotearoa.We had a lot of fun putting this kōrero together, and I hope you find it as valuable as I did.Mauri ora,PeraHit subscribe in your podcast app if you want to hear more.Enjoyed the episode? Help us record more: If you want to help us share these conversations for positive change, please help by donating here: www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas
11. Jase Te Patu - Māori mindfulness, decision making, and hauora (wellbeing) (#11)58:20Jase Te Patu is the founder and driving force behind M3 Mindfulness, a programme designed to improve mental health and wellbeing of students, teachers and whānau. Jase uses Māori stories, mindfulness, and movement to make this important mahi happen. In this kōrero we discuss mental health (hauora hinengaro), mindfulness, decision-making, emotional maturity and Jase's journey. He explains how he channelled early pain and suffering into a positive outcome, reaching a place where he can thrive and carve out a position of happiness from where he can awhi and support others to do the same.Jase talks about the difference good teachers made in his life, and We talk about crying and how as men especially, we're conditioned to hide our emotions, especially our tears. Jase has a small tangi during our kōrero. Because that's what we're meant to do with tears, cry them out.I loved this kōrero and appreciate Jase's open-ness in our conversation. I hope you find it as valuable as I did.Mauri ora,PeraSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)
10. Damien – What I was looking for in gangs48:00“For a lot of us who get lost in the world, and aren’t loved as much as we think we should be loved, or aren’t cared for, we tend to find that other thing to fill that space. For me it was joining a gang..” — DamienPaperback Guerrillas Whānau exclusive: my favourite taonga (treasured idea) from this kōrero was a complete reframing of the way I've been thinking about Destiny's Church at a societal vs individual impact level. You can read it here.This episode is a bit different in that we spend a bit more time talking about how my mate Damien found himself on a path in which he wasn't thriving, and somewhere that in hindsight, he didn't want to be. We talk about how he ended up doing 7 stints in jail, joining gangs, and living a life of violence.If you don't know what this looks or feels like, please listen.See more episodes here: www.paperbackguerrillas.co.nzQuestion: what was your favourite quote or lesson from this episode? Comment below and let us know!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)
9. DJ Spell – The Art of Following Your Dreams01:07:22“I knew from a very young age that this was what I wanted to do for my life.” — DJ SpellPaperback Guerrillas Whānau exclusive: read my favourite taonga (treasured idea) from this kōrero on our Patreon page here.DJ Spell is a world champion turntablist, B-Boy, graffiti artist, beat-maker, te reo Māori tutor, musical tutor, graphic designer, and an artist in general.Some of his credentials: 1st place in: NZ Red Bull Thre3style Battle, Australasian IDA Battle, NZ DMC Battles (twice). World DMC Online - first NZer to win an international DJ competition 2nd in the World DMC DJ BattleMany, many more.In this remote kōrero crossing the Covid lock-down borders of Aotearoa and Australia, Spell shares his journey from growing up in Hamilton under the wing of Aotearoa hip hop legends, to where he is now, travelling the world as a turntablist, living a life he loves. We talk about quitting the dream, doubling down on one focus to become great, the art of thinking differently, mentors and his intentional learning and practice routines. Spell talks about finding passion as an artist and how feedback makes a difference to confidence.We also talked a little about learning and the number of different lanes of art Spell plays in, here he is in the lane he's most known for: being a master of the DJ artform.Hit subscribe in your podcast app if you want to hear more.Enjoyed the episode? Help us record more: If you want to help us share these conversations for positive change, please help by donating here: www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillasResources and mentionsNga iwi o Tainui - bookQuestion: what was your favourite quote or lesson from this episode? Comment below and let us know!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)
8. Pukapuka Episode – 7 Habits of Highly Effective People (Stephen Covey): Sam, Warena & Pera (#8)01:09:50“Don’t prioritise your schedule - schedule your priorities.” — Stephen CoveyThis is a pukapuka episode, where a few of the bros sit down and discuss a book we’ve enjoyed, break down the kaupapa and talk about applying the book’s messages and lessons in real life. These episodes are a chance to discuss books we hope empower people to live well and be well.In this episode, Sam takes us through the main points of Stephen Covey’s The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, a business and self-help book written to help with personal growth. We talk about putting first things first and prioritising things to get the mahi (work) done. Warena talks about his routines at work as a builder-turned-software-developer, and being a student. I talk about my routine and how I manages my time with a five-year-old, two-year-old, and my various projects on the go. We had a lot of fun recording this one, and we hope you enjoy listening.Mauri ora,PeraHit subscribe in your podcast app if you want to hear more.Enjoyed the episode? Help us record more: If you want to help us share these conversations for positive change, please help by donating here: www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillasHow to leave a review so others know it's worth a listen:iTunesStep One: Open Paperback Guerrillas in iTunes. If you're not already there, tap the Search icon (on the bottom) and search for “Paperback Guerrillas” Tap the album art. Then click “View in iTunes" or "Listen on Apple Podcasts."Step Two: Once iTunes is open and you’re on the Paperback Guerrillas page, click the “Ratings and Reviews” tab.Step Three: Click the “Write a Review” button, give a star rating, and write a sentence or two about what you like about the podcast. Click ‘Submit’ and you’re done.StitcherStep One: Open the Paperback Guerrillas page on Stitcher.Step Two: Click on “Reviews”.Step Three: Give a star rating, click the ‘Write a Review’ button, share a sentence or two about what you like about the podcast, click ‘Submit,’ and you’re done.He mihi nui, a huge thank you for supporting the show:Lincoln.HoriAnnaEvotiaAramaYou guys are awesome - not only does putting these kōrero together for you to listen to take a whole bunch of time, it also costs money each month. You make that bill less painful each month, so thank you!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)
7. Stacey Morrison - Not just about te reo Māori (#7)01:06:41“I’ve had the full spectrum from being accused of being too plastic to being criticised for being too elite. So come at me bro.” — StaceyStacey Morrison (Ngāi tahu, Te Arawa) is a māmā of three and is a taonga of TV and radio. She's a fierce advocate for te reo Māori and it's revitalisation across all of those platforms and more. She’s appeared on and hosted some of our most important TV shows from Mai Time, to It’s in the bag, and a bunch of radio, including her current gig on The Hits. Alongside her husband Scotty Morrison she co-authored Māori at Home as well as her own book My First Words in Māori.We talk about getting to the point of doing the mahi that she loves, her early career, learning te reo Māori on TV in front of Aotearoa, and the changes she’s seen in the attitudes toward Māori in TV and radio. She explains some of the challenges of being a mama in the public eye, being middle class, and being comfortable with not needing to be a struggling artist. Stacey gives her whakaaro on what te reo means and doesn’t mean when it comes to being Māori, the different experiences her own children have of Aotearoa and the struggle of identity that many Māori face. We recorded this kōrero during lockdown level 3, so Stacey is at home with her (large) mirumiru, and they feature now and then, as do mine. Stacey isn’t just an author and celebrity. I mentioned in this post on Patreon that this was quite an intimidating interview for myself and there were plenty of cringe moments I had to live through twice while editing where I stumbled my way through to the next question, but Stacey carried the kōrero so well I hope you hardly notice them… plus I edited a bunch out to make me sound like a better host than I really am! Anyway, this was one of the most inspiring and educational kōrero so far for me. I think you’ll really like it.PeraHana Tapiata / Maori Mermaid / Nuku Women / Maimoa Music/ E-Tangata/ Brene Brown/ Mauri Ora Book/ M3 Mindfulness/ He Kupu Tuku Iho bookSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)
6. Hori - Hustling, mental health, and being an artist (#6)01:33:38“I couldn’t go into KFC and order anything, or into the mall, the doctor was like, mate this is anxiety. You need to stop drinking for a bit.” — HoriPaperback Guerrillas is the podcast for mana enhancing kōrero (life-improving conversations).In this episode, Pera Barrett sits down with Otaki based artist, Hori. They talk about how and why Hori spent years fighting te ao Māori, and how he got to the point now of embracing it in his life and art, as a student of te reo Māori. We also talk about the thought process going into a mataora moko (facial tattoo), and having a laugh at ourselves as Māori and non-Māori. We talk about when university can be a bad idea, and what us parents can do to help our children find the mahi that they love. Hori talks about facing into his ego, anger, and how his mental health led to the decision to leave the country.We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed recording it.Hit subscribe in your podcast app if you want to hear more.Show notes:Hustling as an artist and making money from your artMental health and the struggles of artists and teachersBeing happy without being richMoving away from te ao Māori and then coming back as a studentThe benefits of being a Māori artistResources:Hori's galleryBook: Maea te Toi Ora - Māori Health TransformationsEnjoyed the episode? Help us record more: If you want to help us share these conversations for positive change, please help by donating here: www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillasThank you:Lincoln.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/paperbackguerrillas)