Out of Hours: The Podcast
Building a 50-year passion project: Vanishing Asia, with Kevin Kelly.
Sign up to the Out of Hours newsletter here.Today on the podcast we have Kevin Kelly - the founding editor of Wired Magazine. He co-founded Wired in 1993, and served as its Executive Editor for its first 7 years. He's also:-Written a New York Times bestseller on technology and written books on the economy and on decentralization. - Been the publisher and editor of Whole earth Catalogue - an American counterculture magazine.- Founded the popular Cool Tools website in 2003, which has published a cool tool every day for past 18 years. - Co-chair of the Long Now Foundation - which aims to provide a counterpoint to what it views as today's "faster/cheaper" mindset and to promote "slower/better" thinking.Kevin Kelly also has another side project - spanning over the past 50 years - where he has travelled to 35 Asian countries photographing the disappearing cultural traditions - and recently he put his curated works in a book called ‘Vanishing Asia’.Today we talk about everything from how and why he writes (and why he’s different from Neil Stephenson, the author of Snowcrash, who has to write every day). We also talk about why he’s interested in crypto and projects that don’t make sense, why he believes the centre of gravity of culture will move to Asia, why becoming too big as a company or too good at a skill holds you back, and why he wants to be a youtube star. I hope you enjoy!Buy Vanishing Asia here or check out Kevin Kelly's site.Or, sign up to the Out of Hours newsletter here, or email hello [at] outofhours.org.
Compassion as a superpower: Running for office, with Virginia State Delegate Michelle Maldonaldo
Season 3, Ep. 7
Today on the podcast we have Michelle Maldonado. Michelle is the founder & CEO of Lucenscia, a human potential and business transformation firm for developing leaders and organizations, work which she started practicing originally in her corporate job. Michelle designs leadership development and coaching, and has worked with everyone from PepsiCo to the United Nations peacekeepers and humanitarian aid workers.Michelle is and does so many things - she is an entrepreneur, a business leader, a mother, a wife, as well as holding certifications in emotional intelligence, mindfulness and meditation. Most recently, she ran and got elected to the Virginia House of Delegates. Michelleis not a career politician but she was moved to run for election following the public murder of George Floyd and the strorming of the capitol - and sees her role as a ‘bridge builder’. We talk about so much in this conversation - from why she thinks compassion is different to empathy, the three breath meditation you can do any time of day, how to talk to people with different views to you without demonizing them, why emotional intelligence is so important in business and how she discovered meditation aged 7.Sign up to The Out of Hours newsletter!https://outofhours.substack.com/
Source Breathwork: the life-changing power of breathwork for emotional and trauma release, with Charlie Moult
Season 3, Ep. 6
Today on the podcast we have Charlie Moult. Charlie works in the field of breathwork and she is a 1-1 and group breathwork facilitator and the founder of Source, a Breathwork membership. After a life changing experience on a retreat, Charlie was inspired to start training in therapeutic Breathwork practices and eventually she quit her full time job as a Chiropractor to focus on guiding transformational breath journeys for emotional and trauma release. She’s been featured on the BBC (radio) and The Sunday Times and has worked with everyone from corporate sessions with Google to alongside shamans on retreats in Mexico. The purpose of her work is to provide a safe space to experience the healing power of the breath.We talk about what breathwork actually is, how different techniques works, human design, what it means when people say ‘the body keeps the score’, and how you know when you’re on your path. I hope you enjoy!Check out the Source Breathwork websiteFollow Charlie on InstagramSign up to the Out of Hours newsletter for inspiring content
DuPont's Worst Nightmare: Building a legal case that would change history, with Rob Bilott
Season 4, Ep. 5
How does one West Virginian farmer, suspecting foul play and seeking justice, win against one of the largest chemical companies in the world?With the help of someone called Robert Bilott.Today on the show, we have Rob Bilott, described by the New York Times as 'DuPont's worst nightmare' - the lawyer whose story was turned into a Hollywood turned into the film starring Mark Rufalo and Anne Hathaway.Rob is a corporate defence lawyer, who started this case as a small side project - a favour to a farmer from his local area. What he ended up uncovering was one of the biggest cover ups in America. He found that DuPont had been knowingly dumping toxic chemicals into our water, chemicals which are now found in 99% of all living creatures on this earth - and are linked to 6 diseases and birth defects.To read more on Rob's story:Watch the trailer for Dark Waters hereWatch The Devil We Now hereRead Exposure hereP.S. If you want to start your own side project - sign up to the Sprint here!
Seedlip: Building a non-alcoholic drink, with Ben Branson
Season 3, Ep. 4
Today on the podcast we have Ben Branson, founder of Seedlip - the world's first distilled non-alcoholic spirit.Ben grew up with a a father who worked in design, and a mother from a farming family. He started Seedlip originally not from a business opportunity, but because he was curious about what he could do - and whether he could actually finish a project. He was curious to tinker with plants, and learn, and have a creative outlet experimenting with the natural world. He officially started Seedlip in 2015: inspired by nature, and on a new mission to change the way the world drinks by solving the question of what to drink when you’re not drinking. Seedlip has since turned into a global success. He’s had investment from drinks giant Diageo, it’s in thousands of the top bars and restaurants across the world - including London’s Savoy Hotel, and Soho House, and he’s brokered partnerships like the Chelsea Flower show and also met David Attenborough.We talk about why he thinks it’s important to know your strengths, why you should trust your dreams, why your business should serve you as much as you serve the business, and why he hates it w hen someone says ‘hey we should get a drink sometime’.Sign up to the Out of Hours Newsletter for more inspiring updates!
The Stack World: Building a DAO, with Sharmadean Reid
Season 3, Ep. 3
Sharmadean Reid is a serial entrepreneur, based in London. She’s an inspiration to many women around the world, and is widely known for her impact on culture, the beauty industry, and women’s empowerment - and she received an MBE in 2015 for her services. Her entrepreneurial journey started at University, where she created a zine called WAH - a zine - as a side project. She then set up the nail salon, WAH nails, also originally as a side project. She is now founder and CEO of The Stack World - an ecosystem for women, which creates content, builds communities and hosts events for women.Her personal mission is to empower women economically and socially through tech, and much of her life has been spent bringing people together and harnessing new technology for social impact. In this conversation, we talk about why she’s so excited about the future of the internet - what many are calling web3 - why she learnt about NFTs, the role of participation in new companies, and why she’s been working on a Stack DAO - her latest experiment.Terms:WEB3 NFT (non-fungible token)DAO (decentralised autonomous organisation)Sign up to the Out of Hours newsletter here!
Palouse Mindfulness: Building a meditation course, with Dave Potter
Season 3, Ep. 2
Today on the show we have Dave Potter. Dave is a retired psychotherapist, and he specialises in anxiety, stress, and trauma. He created his side project, Palouse Mindfulness, when he was a working therapist, as a way to share a particular meditation practice that has changed his life, called Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction.MBSR, it’s a meditation therapy, originally designed for stress management, and it is used now for treating illnesses including depression, anxiety, chronic pain, cancer, diabetes and immune disorders.Dave Potter had been interested in meditation since the 70s, and received his training as a MBSR instructor while he was a therapist, through University of Massachusetts Medical School - which was actually where Jon Kabat-Zinn, the founder of MBSR, founded the Center for Mindfulness and began MBSR. MBSR is a life-changing course, but if done in person - like all courses it can be expensive. Dave wanted to create a free version of this life-changing course - to bring the lessons to everyone who needs it. Single-handedly he leant on his previous experience in software, to create the Palouse Mindfulness website. The result is a true labour of love. He has personally recorded meditation sessions, curated online teaching content, and painstakingly written up exercises and built the website - all for free - all so people who need it most can access the benefits of MBSR through a free self-paced course. It has helped thousands. Dave is an incredible person, and I was moved by this conversation. We talk about why people procrastinate with meditation, the benefits of starting something on the side, altruism, dealing with difficult situations and why meditation is as important as sleep.Check out Palouse Mindfulness here.Sign up to the Out of Hours Substack newsletter here
The Profile: Building a paid newsletter, with Polina Marinova Pompliano
Season 3, Ep. 1
Today on the podcast we have Polina Marinova Pompliano. She’s the founder and author at the hugely popular newsletter The Profile.What is the profile?The Profile is a newsletter, which started on the side when she was full time at Fortune Magazine and she has since turned into a paid newsletter, and her full time job. The Profile studies the most successful and interesting people in business, entertainment, tech, sports, and more - with the goal of sharing lessons from the most exceptional people and business. It’s been read and promoted by people like Dwayne Johnson - the rock - and Alexis Ohanian - who’s an investor and the founder of Reddit.Why listen to this episode?This episode really is an essential listen for any online creators. We go deep into the details.We talk about how the newsletter started as a project for family and friendsWhy perfectionism kills ideas because builds expectationsWhy you should have a back up projectWhy you should write for yourself not the audienceWhen to leave your job What it’s like being in a relationship with two entrepreneursSign up to The Profile hereSign up to Out of Hours newsletter herePlease do reach out on Twitter, or by leaving a review, and let me know if you like the episode!
Season 3: The Trailer
The Out of Hours podcast is back! After a long wait, Season 3 is coming soon.In this season, I'll be speaking to an incredible mix of people with one thing in common - they gave themselves permission to be completely themselves, to explore the things that light them up, and to build the things they think should exist in the world. Most of them started their passions as side projects, or curiosities, and turned them into something much bigger than they thought possible. The guests on this season know that like everyone, they're running out of hours and want to create things that should exist, say things that should be said, and build the life they actually want, before it’s too late. I’m speaking to creators, to entrepreneurs, to writers, and founders of non-profits -to hear about how they started and grew their projects, their mental models, why they stopped waiting for ‘one day’ and how they started taking their own ideas seriously. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.