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One Vision Podcast — Fintech, Banking & AI with Theodora Lau

At the inflection point of AI and bank modernization

Season 7

🌟 New episode alert! One Vision — FinTech Fuse is back with a power-packed conversation with Jody Bhagat, North America President at Engine by Starling. We talk about the critical role of technology in transforming banking operations and delivering exceptional customer experiences. Whether you're grappling with legacy systems or eyeing the cutting-edge of AI, Jody's insights offer valuable guidance on modernization strategies and the transformative potential of technology. Check out this engaging discussion to learn how this dynamic industry can be both vital and cool! 


00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

01:39 Understanding Engine by Starling

04:43 Challenges and Opportunities in the US Market

06:13 The Importance of Modern Technology in Banking

13:58 AI and Its Impact on Banking

21:38 Strategies for Bank Transformation

26:31 Looking Ahead: The Future of Banking

29:46 Conclusion and Farewell



📍 Hot take: Most banks and credit unions are spending 70 to 80% of their IT spend just on maintaining their legacy core, and it's providing little or no differentiation.


#DigitalTransformation #AI #FinTech 


Find Jody Bhagat on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digitalbusinessgrower/ 


Find Theodora Lau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theodoralau/ 

🔗 Theo’s latest book: Banking on (Artificial) Intelligence: https://www.bankingonaibook.com/ 

🔗 About Unconventional Ventures and the One Vision Podcast: https://www.unconventionalventures.com/ 

One Vision Podcast is a fintech, banking, and AI podcast hosted by Theodora Lau (Founder, Unconventional Ventures; author of Banking on (Artificial) Intelligence). One Vision goes beyond the headlines on AI, agentic commerce, digital banking, financial inclusion, and the future of money — with founders, analysts, venture capitalists, technologists, and operators building the next chapter of financial services. New episodes weekly. Featured guests include leaders from Ant, bunq, J.D. Power, Forrester, IBM, Microsoft, Salesforce, SAS, SAP, and Wall Street Journal. Recognized in American Banker's Top 20 Most Influential Women in Fintech.


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  • Scale Now, Not Later — FundPark's Hay Yip on Working Capital for SMEs

    40:42||Season 8
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  • What Does Good Look Like? Tyler Spalding on Public Trust, Responsible AI, and the Future of Work

    30:19||Season 8
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    52:17||Season 8
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  • AI as the Operating System: Inside bunq's AI-Native Approach to Fintech

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  • From iPhone to AI-Native Banking: Rethinking Customer Journeys, Platform Strategy, and Human Value in a Tech-Driven World

    45:25||Season 7
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  • On Personal Growth: Chasing purpose, curiosity, and love

    25:09||Season 7
    Brandon Purcell, a former vice president and principal analyst at Forrester, recently embarked on a remarkable journey to write a book that intertwines his experiences with addiction and recovery with the concepts of artificial intelligence. In this new episode of One Vision Podcast, hosted by Theodora Lau, we dive deep into Brandon’s unique perspectives on how these two seemingly disparate topics are closely related. It is raw, vulnerable, and a reflection on how we can find our way back to authentic connection and recovery.  00:00 Welcome and Intro01:55 From Forrester to Responsible AI04:04 The Book Idea Takes Shape06:58 AI Metaphors for Addiction16:05 Advice to Younger Self20:39 Looking ForwardHot take: Be pulled by love, not fear. Hot take: Pause more and be intentional in what we do.Keywords: AI, Humanity, Mental Health, Personal Growth, Purpose More about our guest 🌐Brandon Purcell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandoncpurcell/ More about our host and One Vision Podcast 🌐Theodora Lau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theodoralau/ 🌐Banking on (Artificial) Intelligence (book): https://www.bankingonaibook.com/ 🌐Unconventional Ventures (company): https://www.unconventionalventures.com/ 🌐Listen to all One Vision Podcast episodes by visiting: https://shows.acast.com/one-vision