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Eric Wang focuses on leveraging AI to improve learning experiences and promote academic integrity around the world. He leads the AI transformation of Turnitin as VP of AI. Turnitin is one of the world's largest EdTech companies. Turnitin AI, is a globe spanning AI research org that develops and deploys cutting edge scalable AI to improve teaching, feedback, efficiency, and academic integrity at over 16,000 educational institutions, reaching 40+ million students.


Eric has over 15 years of hands-on people and strategic leadership experience in AI across academia, government research, and technology industries. He's an expert in the full lifecycle of enterprise AI and enterprise AI strategy. He's recently been featured: NBC Nightly News, NYT, Wired, Insider, and EdSurge.


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