No Such Thing: K12 Education in the Digital Age


Bicycle Design and Fabrication at Minnesota State College Southeast

Ep. 72

Travis Thul is the Founder of Bicycle Design & Fabrication at MN State College Southeast. Thul was also the engineering technology program coordinator at the Community College of Baltimore County in Catonsville, Md., but he didn’t stop there – he went on to become an electronics engineer at the Federal Communications Commission in Washington, D.C., in charge of research on wireless power transfer. And, he’s a Coast Guard veteran, where he serves as lieutenant commander in the reserves. In 2017, he was honored as a “Rising Star Under 40” for the 7 Rivers Region of Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

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Ep. 77
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