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The Legal History of Slavery

Season 1, Ep. 22

Britain has a long and complex history with slavery. From medieval villeinage through to the African slaves brought to the colonies, has the country truly reckoned with its role in perpetrating one of the great evils in humanity's history? In this episode of Law & Disorder, Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer run through our fraught history with the slave trade, and ask whether the abolition movement was quite as pure as the history books say. Then they tackle the thorny questions of reparations and affirmative action, as the implications of slavery move into their modern context.


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