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JTG MINI: Why Michael J. Fox replaced Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future
EDIT: YES I ACCIDENTALLY SAY 'MATTHEW' INSTEAD OF 'MICHAEL' IN THE FIRST 30 SECONDS I CANNOT FREAKING BELIEVE I DID THAT đ« đđ« (And yes we could go in and change it but I actually think it's extremely funny.)
It's hard to imagine anyone but Michael J. Fox playing the iconic role of Marty McFly in 1985's Back To The Future. But another actor was originally cast, and even spent a month filming almost half the movie's scenes before he was informed he was being replaced.
That actor was Eric Stoltz - a 23-year-old who had been auditioning for years when he landed the life-changing role of Marty McFly. Produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Robert Zemeckis, Back to the Future was all but guaranteed to launch Stoltz's career into the stratosphere. But just one month into filming, Eric Stoltz was fired and the role was recast with young sitcom actor Michael J. Fox.Â
The Back to the Future trilogy went on to become one of the most successful and iconic franchises in cinematic history. Fox himself became one of the world's most famous and beloved actors. He and Eric Stoltz didn't speak for almost 40 years.
So what happened to Eric Stoltz? Why was he fired? And how does it work when an actor needs to be recast after filming is already well underway? This is Just The Gist (MINI) of what is considered one of the most brutal recasting stories in Hollywood history: Michael J. Fox replacing Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future.
(Sorry we're a day behind - James was away for a couple of days and of course I broke something in the studio while he was gone đ« đ Rosie x)
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We Don't Need Roads: The Making of the Back to the Future Trilogy by Caseen Gaines (2015)
Michael J. Fox Met Eric Stoltz, 40 Years After 'Back to the Future' Recasting (Variety, 2025)
How We Made âBack to the Futureâ (The Guardian, 2014)
Eric Stoltz interview clip about being fired from âBack to the Futureâ (Instagram)
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83. JTG MINI: Guy Goma - the man BBC accidentally interviewed on LIVE TV
51:14||Season 1, Ep. 83In 2006, a man named Guy Goma turned up at the BBC for a job interview in IT support. Ten minutes later, he found himself live on BBC News 24, being introduced to millions as a leading technology journalist. But it's what happens next that made it one of the most viral videos of all time: A look of panic flashes across Guy's face when he realises they've got the wrong person, and rather than point it out, he composes himself, takes a breath and⊠just goes ahead with the interview. This year, to mark the legendary moment's 20th anniversary, Guy Goma and the producer who put him on air published a book called 'The Wrong Guy: The Inside Story of TV's Greatest Cock-Up'..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Editor & Producer: James Joseph | Producers: Kate Leaver, Hayley Staveley & Sammy Petersen | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDonât forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..The Wrong Guy: The Inside Story of TVâs Greatest Cock-Up by Elliott Gotkine and Guy Goma (Liberalis Books / Collective Ink, 2026)A Mistaken Guy: The 20-Year Legacy of a Live TV Blunder (The New York Times, 2026)Twenty years since wrong Guy resulted in greatest mix-up on live TV (ABC News, 2026)20 years since BBC's iconic accidental TV interview (LBC / James OâBrien, YouTube, 2026)Accidental Celebrities podcast (2023)Man in viral 2006 BBC interview mixup says he will sue for royalties (The Guardian, 2023)I was interviewed on live TV by accident (BBC World Service Outlook, 2022)Ten Years On: A Lesson In Thinking On Your Feet By Guy Goma (VICE, 2016)BBC Apologizes For Interview Mishap (CBS News / Associated Press, 2006)Guy Goma BBC interview (Wikipedia, 2026)
82. Just The Gist of... De Beers and the Diamond Marketing Scam
01:03:43||Season 1, Ep. 82Why is a diamond supposed to cost you two months' salary? Why is it THE rock weâre supposed to propose with? Turns out none of it is real. Diamonds aren't rare and they're almost definitely not worth what you paid. All of that was made up by an advertising agency paid by De Beers - the worldâs biggest diamond company. Because De Beers knew if people found out that diamonds werenât actually rare or special, theyâd stop buying them. This is Just The Gist of what was arguably one of the best marketing campaigns in history (and the reason that diamond ring on your finger isnât nearly as valuable as you think): De Beers and the Diamond Marketing Scam..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (The Atlantic, 1982)Diamonds Aren't Rare. Why Are They So in Demand? (The Atlantic, 2023)Diamonds Aren't Forever: The Story of De Beers (Sahil Bloom, 2022)The Diamond Empire: How De Beers Created a Market Out of Nothing (Business Leader, 2024)Diamond Crash Delivers a Third Strike for De Beers (Forbes, 2026)How De Beers Changed the Diamond Market With One Simple Tagline (Sothebyâs)Diamonds from Coal? (Geology.com)Diamonds Unearthed (Smithsonian Magazine)
81. JTG MINI: The Glitter Conspiracy
40:49||Season 1, Ep. 81Nobody knows who buys most of the world's glitter. And whoever it is REALLY doesn't want you to find out. Back in 2018, a New York Times journalist rang one of the biggest glitter companies on the planet and asked a simple question: who is buying all the glitter? They refused to say. Seven years later, the internet still hasn't worked it out. This is Just The Gist (MINI!) of the glitter conspiracy: the weirdly secretive industry, the interview with 'Glitterex' that kicked it all off, the theories from boat paint to the US military, and the one question nobody will answer..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterland Want to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently! Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..What Is Glitter? (The New York Times, 2018)The Glitter Conspiracy Theory: Who Is Taking All Of The Glitter? (IFLScience, 2022)The End of the Glitter Conspiracy (CHUPPL, YouTube, 2023)The Great Glitter Mystery (Endless Thread, WBUR, 2019)Glittery Curiosity (Call Your Girlfriend, 2021)The Discovery, Development of Glitter (Paper, Film & Foil Converter, 2021)
80. Just The Gist of...The Kennedy Family (AKA Kennedys 101)
01:04:58||Season 1, Ep. 80It was highly requested so here it is: just the gist of the Kennedy family! A basic breakdown of how they came to the US from Ireland, how they became one the wealthiest and most powerful political families in America, and who a bunch of the notable family members (and connections) have been, and are, today. Since I've told a couple of 'Kennedy Family' themed episodes of Just The Gist, (gisten to The Chappaquiddick Incident here and JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette Kennedy here), quite a few Gistners asked me to strip it back even further and give just the gist of the general family history. And that's on me! My weird hyperfixation meant I assumed people knew more about this than they do, and one of the major rules at Just The Gist is no assumed knowledge! So consider this Kennedys 101. The basics of what you need to know about them to understand any of our Kennedy-themed episodes. And ooft there's a lot of them - John F. Kennedy and Jackie O, Bobby Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, Maria Shriver, Chris Pratt, Big Edie and Little Edie from Grey Gardens, Patrick Schwarzenegger, RFK Jr., Jack SchlossbergâŠWe go from an Irish farmer in 1845 to The White Lotus in 2025 and Trump's White House in 2026 - it's all in there bĂ©bĂ©. Well, just the gist of it..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions. Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterland Want to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.au Just The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: Pocket Don't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently! Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..The Kennedy Curse (James Patterson, 2020)Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed (Maureen Callahan, 2024)Just The Gist of The Chappaquiddick Incident (Just The Gist, 2026)Just The Gist of JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (Just The Gist, 2026)American Experience: The Kennedys (PBS, 1992)American Dynasties: The Kennedys (CNN, 2018)A Battle With My Blood (The New Yorker, 2025)Dead Certain: The Martha Moxley Murder (NBC News Studios, 2025)
79. Just The Gist of⊠The Death of Mary Jo Kopechne, otherwise known as 'The Chappaquiddick Incident'
01:10:34||Season 1, Ep. 79Once both Senator Ted Kennedy's older brothers had been assassinated, he was widely expected to finish what JFK and Bobby had started by running for President in the next US election. Until, late one Friday night in 1969, Ted Kennedy got drunk at a party, crashed his car off a bridge, where it flipped mid-air and landed upside down in the pond below. Ted managed to swim free, but rather than calling for help or alerting authorities, he left his car submerged in the water and went back to his hotel to sleep it off.Still inside the car though, was Ted Kennedy's passenger: 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne. Mary Jo was alive for more than an hour, trapped in a tiny air pocket until she suffocated to death, waiting for help that never came. Ted Kennedy wasn't punished, and while he didn't end up President, he did go on to spend the next 40 years as one of the most respected and longest serving members of the US Senate.This is Just The Gist of The Death of Mary Jo Kopechne, otherwise known as 'The Chappaquiddick Incident'..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producer: Kate Leaver | Additional production support: Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..Just The Gist episode: JFK Jr and Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (Just The Gist, 2025)Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed by Maureen Callahan (Hachette, 2024)'Chappaquiddick' Official Trailer (YouTube, 2018)'Chappaquiddick' Unblinkingly Revisits Most Shameful Moment in Kennedy History (Sydney Morning Herald, 2018)The Crash That Launched 'Chappaquiddick' (Martha's Vineyard Times, 2019)Ted Kennedy's televised address to the nation on Chappaquiddick (YouTube, 1969)Roger Mudd asks Ted Kennedy 'Why do you want to be president?' (YouTube, 1979)Transcript of Ted Kennedy's answer to 'Why do you want to be president?' (Medium, 2020)
78. ENCORE: The Dave Matthews Band Bus Poop Incident
33:19||Season 1, Ep. 78In what eventually became known as âTHE CRAPPENINGâ, a Dave Matthews Band tour bus dumped 800 pounds of toilet waste while driving across the Kinzie Street Bridge in Chicago in 2004. And in an example of what might be the most perfect - yet unfortunate - timing ever, there just happened to be an open-air sightseeing tour boat passing directly under the bridge at the exact same timeâŠÂ Dave Matthews Band tried to deny being involved, but after being soaked in what was described as a "rust-coloured waterfallâ the 120 passengers who were aboard âChicagoâs Little Ladyâ, and soon the entire city of Chicago, were demanding answers. We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's this:Dave Matthews Band bus incident Wikipedia page - Complete incident details and aftermathWBEZ 20-year anniversary coverage - "20 years after that disgusting Dave Matthews Band incident, victims now can laugh about it" (2024)CBS Chicago retrospective - "Remembering the disgusting Dave Matthews Band bus incident 20 years later" (2024)Chicago Tribune vintage coverage - "Vintage Chicago Tribune: Remembering the Dave Matthews Band bus incident, 20 years later" (2024)The Crappening documentary - Filmmaker seeking witnesses for documentary about the incident (2024)CBS Chicago vault footage - Original 2004 news coverageChicago mascots tribute video - Benny the Bull, Staley Da Bear, and Tommy Hawk pay respects on anniversary (2024)
77. Just The Gist of⊠The Tonight Show battle between Conan O'Brien and Jay Leno
01:22:09||Season 1, Ep. 77In 2010, NBC tried to hand The Tonight Show, the 60-year-old crown jewel of American late night, to two different comedians. The five-year succession plan they spent years building collapsed in seven months, took down the entire network's primetime line-up with it, and ended with $45 million in severance, one million people in "I'm With Coco" t-shirts, and one of the great public-image collapses in TV history. Sixteen years later, Conan O'Brien and Jay Leno have still never spoken. This is Just The Gist of the Tonight Show battle between Conan O'Brien and Jay Leno.......We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterland Want to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producer: Kate Leaver | Additional production support: Hayley Staveley | Acast Legends: Guy Scott-Wilson and Simon McDermott | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently! Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party.......Resources:The War for Late Night by Bill Carter (Goodreads, 2010)The Late Shift by Bill Carter (Goodreads, 1994)2010 Tonight Show conflict (Wikipedia)Conan O'Brien's 2011 Dartmouth Commencement Speech (YouTube, 2011)Conan O'Brien Can't Stop documentary (YouTube, 2011)O'Donnell to Leno: Hand over Tonight (CBS News, 2010)Jay Leno and the Tonight Show Controversy (Oprah.com, 2010)
76. JTG MINI: A day in the life of a bee
39:33||Season 1, Ep. 76Inside an average bee hive, 80,000 bees are running a 99% female matriarchy. The queen is the only one allowed to have sex, baby queens are made not born, and male drones get kicked out to starve in winter when they stop being useful. Throw in a mid-air sex club, royal jelly, and a waggle dance, and it might just be the most ruthlessly efficient society on earth. This is Just The Gist (MINI!) of a day in the life of a bee..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producer: Kate Leaver | Additional production support: Hayley Staveley | Acast Legends: Guy Scott-Wilson and Simon McDermott | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..A Day in the Life of a Worker Bee (Nate's Hives, 2022)Tasks and Duties Throughout the Life Cycle of a Worker Honey Bee (University of Florida IFAS, 2022)A Day in the Life of a Honey Bee (Save the Bee, 2023)Queen bee (Wikipedia, 2025)Honey bee life cycle (Wikipedia, 2025)A Day in the Life of Honey Bees (Harvest Lane Honey Australia, 2023)Who's Who in the Bee Colony Fact Sheet (Australian Honey Bee Industry Council, 2022)Bee Information (Mid-Bucks Beekeepers Association, n.d.)