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88. Just The Gist of... Tania Head, The Fake 9/11 Survivor
01:05:41||Season 1, Ep. 88Her story was one of triumph over trauma. When the planes flew into the World Trade Center twin towers on September 11, 2001, Tania Head was on the floor where the plane hit the south tower. With her arm almost completely severed, she somehow made it out, only to still be at ground zero when the tower collapsed. One of the few survivors pulled from the rubble, Tania woke up in hospital with horrific injuries, only to be told that her fiancé, who was in the other tower, has died. She goes on to become president of the World Trade Center Survivors' Network, and is the public face of those who made it out. One little problem - Tania had never even been to the World Trade Center. Not only was she not in New York City on 9/11, she wasn't even in the United States. Her name wasn't even Tania.This is Just The Gist of Alicia Esteve Head: the fake 9/11 survivor, the 2007 New York Times investigation that exposed her, and the 2012 documentary' The Woman Who Wasn't There' that asked the question everybody wanted the answer to... WHY?.We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producers: Kate Leaver, Hayley Staveley & Sammy Petersen | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..The Woman Who Wasn't There documentary (YouTube, 2012)The Woman Who Wasn't There by Robin Gaby Fisher and Angelo J. Guglielmo Jr. (2012)In a 9/11 Survival Tale, the Pieces Just Don't Fit (The New York Times, 2007)Robin Gaby Fisher and Angelo Guglielmo interviewed on All Things Considered (NPR, 2012)Excerpt from The Woman Who Wasn't There (NPR, 2012)The 9/11 Faker documentary summary (Watch Documentaries, 2008)Angelo Guglielmo essay on Tania Head (HuffPost, 2012)Alicia Esteve Head WikipediaMadrid newspaper details on Alicia Esteve Head (Survivor Guidelines, 2007)
87. JTG MINI: Phia, Phoebe Gates and the 'cookie stuffing' scandal
57:23||Season 1, Ep. 87Phoebe Gates, the 23-year-old daughter of billionaires Bill Gates and Melinda French Gates, has spent the last year insisting her shopping app Phia would succeed with, quote, 'no ties to my privilege or my last name'. And it seemed to be working: Phia raised $43.5 million from investors including Khloe Kardashian, Paris Hilton and Sydney Sweeney, and hit a $185 million valuation in less than two years. Then on the 9th of July 2026, a Bloomberg investigation alleged the app had been faking how well it was doing with a sneaky trick called 'cookie stuffing', possibly defrauding investors and affiliate partners out of tens of millions of dollars. It's so serious that the last people caught doing it were prosecuted by the FBI and went to federal prison. This is Just The Gist (MINI!) of Phia, Phoebe Gates and the fake clicks scandal: the Bloomberg cookie stuffing investigation, the celebrity investors, and the self-made girlboss story that may be unravelling in real time..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterland Want to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producers: Kate Leaver, Hayley Staveley & Sammy Petersen | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently! Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..Gates Heir's Shopping App Took Credit for Sales It Didn't Drive (Bloomberg, 2026)Forced Clicks and Stand-Down Violations by Shopping Plugin Phia (BenEdelman.org, 2026)Affiliate Fraud Litigation Index (BenEdelman.org, 2026)The Phia Controversy Explained: How Phoebe Gates Can Recover From a Major PR Crisis (Your PR BFF on Substack, 2026)Phia Accused of Cookie Stuffing, Taking Affiliate Credit on Purchases It Didn't Earn (TechCrunch, 2026)Q&A: Sophia Kianni and Phoebe Gates Reflect on Their Time at Stanford and Co-Founding Phia (The Stanford Daily, 2025)
86. Just The Gist of... Bernie Madoff
01:16:46||Season 1, Ep. 86His $68 billion fraud literally came down to fake statements printed on a secret floor of the office - so how did he get away with it for long? Bernie Madoff ran the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, and it was shockingly simple. And yeah - he took billions from billionaires, but he also took the life savings and superannuation of everyday people. Homes were foreclosed on and lives were ruined. Bernie insisted only he was to blame, and his wife Ruth and sons Mark and Andrew Madoff denied any knowledge of the fraud. But a 2023 book (Madoff: The Final Word by Richard Behar (2024)) revealed that all three of them may have been far more involved than they insisted. Bernie died alone in prison in 2021, knowing that both Andrew and Mark had died and Ruth was alone in an aged care facility. Did he even care?This is Just The Gist of Bernie Madoff and the biggest Ponzi scheme in history..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producers: Kate Leaver, Hayley Staveley & Sammy Petersen | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..Madoff: The Final Word by Richard Behar (2024)Where Is Bernie Madoff's Wife Ruth Madoff Now? (People, 2025)Madoff's Final Word: The Sins of Ruth Madoff (Forbes, 2024)Madoff: The Monster of Wall Street official trailer (YouTube, 2023)The Wizard of Lies: Bernie Madoff and the Death of Trust by Diana Henriques (2011)Bernie Madoff case file (FBI, 2021)Bernie Madoff (Wikipedia, 2026)
85. JTG MINI: How Pop Mart lost billions on the rise and fall of Labubus.
53:46||Season 1, Ep. 85At the peak of the Labubu craze in 2025, Pop Mart, the company behind the viral blind box toys, was worth more than Mattel and Hasbro combined. That's Barbie AND Nerf, beaten by a snaggle-toothed elf from artist Kasing Lung's 'The Monsters' universe, dangling off the designer handbags of Lisa from BLACKPINK, Rihanna and Cher. Then the bubble burst: resale prices cratered, counterfeit 'Lafufus' flooded the market, Pop Mart's stock plunged more than 22 percent in a single day, and founder Wang Ning personally lost 2.7 billion dollars before lunch. This is Just The Gist (MINI!) of the rise and fall of Labubu: the blind box craze, the celebrity bag charm frenzy, and the toy bubble that burst almost overnight..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer and Editor: James Joseph | Producers: Kate Leaver, Hayley Staveley & Sammy Petersen | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..Bryan Yambao in conversation with Kasing Lung, the creative force behind Labubu (Perfect Magazine, 2025)Toy Mogul Wang Ning Loses Almost $3 Billion As Shares Of Labubu Maker Pop Mart Drop On Overseas Slowdown (Forbes, 2026)Why Labubu Maker Pop Mart's Shares Are Plunging (Bloomberg Television on YouTube, 2026)Meet The Teacher Who Wakes Up At 3:30 AM For His Labubu Business (Business Insider on YouTube, 2025)'Labubu' is a plush toy that is causing a frenzy. Here's its origin story (NPR, 2025)The Downfall of Labubus (YouTube, 2025)Fever to fatigue? Pop Mart welcomes the fall in Labubu resale prices (CNBC, 2025)Pop Mart shares plunge over 22% as concerns over sustainability of Labubu sales dwarf stellar results (CNBC, 2026)What comes after Labubu? Inside Pop Mart's next growth play (CNBC, 2026)Kasing Lung (Wikipedia)Pop Mart Founder Wang Ning's Net Worth Drops $6 Billion As Labubu Demand Cools (Forbes, 2025)Once richer than Peter Thiel, Pop Mart's Wang Ning sees $6 billion vanish with Labubu hype (Fortune, 2025)Why Are People Lining Up for Labubus? (UC San Diego Today, 2025)
84. JTG MINI: Why Michael J. Fox replaced Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future
59:37||Season 1, Ep. 84EDIT: YES I ACCIDENTALLY SAY 'MATTHEW' INSTEAD OF 'MICHAEL' IN THE FIRST 30 SECONDS I CANNOT FREAKING BELIEVE I DID THAT 🫠😂🫠 (And yes we could go in and change it but I actually think it's extremely funny.)It's hard to imagine anyone but Michael J. Fox playing the iconic role of Marty McFly in 1985's Back To The Future. But another actor was originally cast, and even spent a month filming almost half the movie's scenes before he was informed he was being replaced.That actor was Eric Stoltz - a 23-year-old who had been auditioning for years when he landed the life-changing role of Marty McFly. Produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Robert Zemeckis, Back to the Future was all but guaranteed to launch Stoltz's career into the stratosphere. But just one month into filming, Eric Stoltz was fired and the role was recast with young sitcom actor Michael J. Fox. The Back to the Future trilogy went on to become one of the most successful and iconic franchises in cinematic history. Fox himself became one of the world's most famous and beloved actors. He and Eric Stoltz didn't speak for almost 40 years.So what happened to Eric Stoltz? Why was he fired? And how does it work when an actor needs to be recast after filming is already well underway? This is Just The Gist (MINI) of what is considered one of the most brutal recasting stories in Hollywood history: Michael J. Fox replacing Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future.(Sorry we're a day behind - James was away for a couple of days and of course I broke something in the studio while he was gone 🫠😂 Rosie x)......We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party.......We Don't Need Roads: The Making of the Back to the Future Trilogy by Caseen Gaines (2015)Michael J. Fox Met Eric Stoltz, 40 Years After 'Back to the Future' Recasting (Variety, 2025)How Back to the Future tried to hide Michael J. Fox replacing Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly: 'Just a hot mess' (Entertainment Weekly, 2025)Future Boy: Back to the Future and My Journey Through the Space-Time Continuum by Michael J. Fox (2025)How We Made ‘Back to the Future’ (The Guardian, 2014)Eric Stoltz interview clip about being fired from ‘Back to the Future’ (Instagram)No Crying in Baseball: The Inside Story of ‘A League of Their Own’ by Erin Carlson (2023)Ladies Who Punch: The Explosive Inside Story of ‘The View’ by Ramin Setoodeh (2019)Just The Gist podcast episode: ‘The 1989 Oscars (aka the worst Oscars ceremony of all time)’ 2025
83. JTG MINI: Guy Goma - the man BBC accidentally interviewed on LIVE TV
51:14||Season 1, Ep. 83In 2006, a man named Guy Goma turned up at the BBC for a job interview in IT support. Ten minutes later, he found himself live on BBC News 24, being introduced to millions as a leading technology journalist. But it's what happens next that made it one of the most viral videos of all time: A look of panic flashes across Guy's face when he realises they've got the wrong person, and rather than point it out, he composes himself, takes a breath and… just goes ahead with the interview. This year, to mark the legendary moment's 20th anniversary, Guy Goma and the producer who put him on air published a book called 'The Wrong Guy: The Inside Story of TV's Greatest Cock-Up'..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Editor & Producer: James Joseph | Producers: Kate Leaver, Hayley Staveley & Sammy Petersen | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon’t forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..The Wrong Guy: The Inside Story of TV’s Greatest Cock-Up by Elliott Gotkine and Guy Goma (Liberalis Books / Collective Ink, 2026)A Mistaken Guy: The 20-Year Legacy of a Live TV Blunder (The New York Times, 2026)Twenty years since wrong Guy resulted in greatest mix-up on live TV (ABC News, 2026)20 years since BBC's iconic accidental TV interview (LBC / James O’Brien, YouTube, 2026)Accidental Celebrities podcast (2023)Man in viral 2006 BBC interview mixup says he will sue for royalties (The Guardian, 2023)I was interviewed on live TV by accident (BBC World Service Outlook, 2022)Ten Years On: A Lesson In Thinking On Your Feet By Guy Goma (VICE, 2016)BBC Apologizes For Interview Mishap (CBS News / Associated Press, 2006)Guy Goma BBC interview (Wikipedia, 2026)
82. Just The Gist of... De Beers and the Diamond Marketing Scam
01:03:43||Season 1, Ep. 82Why is a diamond supposed to cost you two months' salary? Why is it THE rock we’re supposed to propose with? Turns out none of it is real. Diamonds aren't rare and they're almost definitely not worth what you paid. All of that was made up by an advertising agency paid by De Beers - the world’s biggest diamond company. Because De Beers knew if people found out that diamonds weren’t actually rare or special, they’d stop buying them. This is Just The Gist of what was arguably one of the best marketing campaigns in history (and the reason that diamond ring on your finger isn’t nearly as valuable as you think): De Beers and the Diamond Marketing Scam..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcastFollow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterlandWant to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently!Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond? (The Atlantic, 1982)Diamonds Aren't Rare. Why Are They So in Demand? (The Atlantic, 2023)Diamonds Aren't Forever: The Story of De Beers (Sahil Bloom, 2022)The Diamond Empire: How De Beers Created a Market Out of Nothing (Business Leader, 2024)Diamond Crash Delivers a Third Strike for De Beers (Forbes, 2026)How De Beers Changed the Diamond Market With One Simple Tagline (Sotheby’s)Diamonds from Coal? (Geology.com)Diamonds Unearthed (Smithsonian Magazine)
81. JTG MINI: The Glitter Conspiracy
40:49||Season 1, Ep. 81Nobody knows who buys most of the world's glitter. And whoever it is REALLY doesn't want you to find out. Back in 2018, a New York Times journalist rang one of the biggest glitter companies on the planet and asked a simple question: who is buying all the glitter? They refused to say. Seven years later, the internet still hasn't worked it out. This is Just The Gist (MINI!) of the glitter conspiracy: the weirdly secretive industry, the interview with 'Glitterex' that kicked it all off, the theories from boat paint to the US military, and the one question nobody will answer..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions.Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterland Want to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.auJust The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: PocketDon't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently! Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..What Is Glitter? (The New York Times, 2018)The Glitter Conspiracy Theory: Who Is Taking All Of The Glitter? (IFLScience, 2022)The End of the Glitter Conspiracy (CHUPPL, YouTube, 2023)The Great Glitter Mystery (Endless Thread, WBUR, 2019)Glittery Curiosity (Call Your Girlfriend, 2021)The Discovery, Development of Glitter (Paper, Film & Foil Converter, 2021)
80. Just The Gist of...The Kennedy Family (AKA Kennedys 101)
01:04:58||Season 1, Ep. 80It was highly requested so here it is: just the gist of the Kennedy family! A basic breakdown of how they came to the US from Ireland, how they became one the wealthiest and most powerful political families in America, and who a bunch of the notable family members (and connections) have been, and are, today. Since I've told a couple of 'Kennedy Family' themed episodes of Just The Gist, (gisten to The Chappaquiddick Incident here and JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette Kennedy here), quite a few Gistners asked me to strip it back even further and give just the gist of the general family history. And that's on me! My weird hyperfixation meant I assumed people knew more about this than they do, and one of the major rules at Just The Gist is no assumed knowledge! So consider this Kennedys 101. The basics of what you need to know about them to understand any of our Kennedy-themed episodes. And ooft there's a lot of them - John F. Kennedy and Jackie O, Bobby Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, Maria Shriver, Chris Pratt, Big Edie and Little Edie from Grey Gardens, Patrick Schwarzenegger, RFK Jr., Jack Schlossberg…We go from an Irish farmer in 1845 to The White Lotus in 2025 and Trump's White House in 2026 - it's all in there bébé. Well, just the gist of it..We give you Just The Gist, but if you want more, there's Breakin' Nooz, JTG After Show AND Bonus eps! You can access them by joining the Gistener Club via the Just The Gist Patreon or Apple Premium Subscriptions. Watch Just The Gist episodes on Youtube @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Just The Gist on Instagram and TikTok @JustTheGistPodcast Follow Rosie in all the places at @RosieWaterland Want to give us a SuGISTion? Tell Rosie to stop singing so much? Email us at hello@justthegist.com.au Just The Gist is a Just The Network production. Executive Producer and Host: Rosie Waterland | Senior Producer: James Joseph | Senior Editor: Sammy Petersen | Producers: Kate Leaver and Hayley Staveley | Acast Legend: Guy Scott-Wilson | Production Assistant: Pocket Don't forget to follow and give us 5 stars, which means something apparently! Thank you, as always, for Gistening. Now go say something impressive at a dinner party..The Kennedy Curse (James Patterson, 2020)Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed (Maureen Callahan, 2024)Just The Gist of The Chappaquiddick Incident (Just The Gist, 2026)Just The Gist of JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette Kennedy (Just The Gist, 2026)American Experience: The Kennedys (PBS, 1992)American Dynasties: The Kennedys (CNN, 2018)A Battle With My Blood (The New Yorker, 2025)Dead Certain: The Martha Moxley Murder (NBC News Studios, 2025)
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