It's not all about the numbers! By GENCFO

Chris and Mike are joined by Ben Adams, founder of Ben Adams Finance, to explore what modern fractional finance really looks like. From navigating founders “at war” to uncovering dangerous cash illusions, Ben explains why great finance leaders aren’t just number crunchers — they’re the adults in the room. This one’s about translating data, balancing compliance with strategy, and helping CEOs see what they might be missing.

Chris and Mike are joined by organisational psychologist Christen Gilchrist to unpack why burnout isn’t a personal failing — it’s a systems problem. From NHS bed management to boardroom meetings that cost £56,000 a year, Christen explains how hidden feedback loops, poor information flow, and overloaded leadership habits quietly drain performance. This episode's about fixing the system — not blaming the people.

Chris and Mike welcome back Gavin Freeguard to explore fraud, data transparency, policy communities, and why reforming government isn’t about shiny tech — it’s about people, culture, and collaboration.

Chris and Mike sit down with Kam Karaji, Director of Cybersecurity and Risk Management at the NFL, to unpack why insider risk still causes most breaches — and what leaders can actually do about it.

Chris and Mike are joined by James Cattell to explore why communities matter, how safe spaces actually get built, and why a bit of creative chaos can be the most effective leadership tool of all.

Chris and Mike are joined by Julie Wong to explore why so many founders avoid the numbers — and how reframing finance as storytelling (not maths) helps leaders feel more in control and make better decisions.

We've got a guest host this week, as Mike is joined by previous guest Joel Johansen, with guest Jamie Arnold, about what to do when team dynamics go sideways — including a practical “silent retro” technique that helps teams reflect safely when trust is low.

Chris and Mike kick off the year (and series 4!) with an honest conversation about momentum, meaning, and why moving forward doesn’t require resolutions — just clarity and intent.

Chris and Mike kick off the year with a short New Year episode, reflecting on fresh starts, leadership growth, and why meaningful progress doesn’t need formal resolutions to stick.