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Finding Light in the Darkness: A Grief Journey with Shelby Forsythia
Hope, happiness, joy, wholeness, purpose, or any other part of ourselves that we believe vanished in the wake of grief, will resurface in new forms. Embracing this new version of joy, happiness, or purpose is a beautiful way of welcoming another part of you impacted by grief.
In today's episode, I have the pleasure of hosting Shelby Forsythia, a Grief Coach, Author, and Podcaster. Shelby's insightful and compassionate approach to grief is a guiding light that helps grievers navigate through the challenging terrain of death, divorce, diagnosis, and other significant life transitions.
Throughout this episode, you'll delve into Shelby's personal journey of grief, including the loss of her mother, the multiple issues it triggered on a personal level, and how she dealt with them. Shelby explains why she sees grief professionals as bearers of hope, underscores the importance of maintaining a long-term perspective when grappling with grief, and why having a voice to listen to from someone who went through grief is comforting and helpful, even in the absence of solutions.
Tune in to episode 228 and discover how to view life through the lens of grief, reinterpret the world around you, and rediscover your happiness following grief.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
Shelby shares her grief story and her dominant emotion during that time (2:20)
Why listening to the voice of someone who gets grief is comforting (9:20)
Embracing joy, happiness, and purpose after grief (14:50)
The importance of keeping the end in mind while grieving (21:30)
Shelby’s relationship with happiness and joy following her mother’s death (31:00)
Resources:
Book: Shelby Forsythia - Your Grief, Your Way: A Year of Practical Guidance and Comfort After Loss
Book: Shelby Forsythia: Permission to Grieve: Creating Grace, Space, & Room to Breathe in the Aftermath of Loss
Dear Grief Guide podcast with Shelby Forsythia
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436. "Grief Is the Same for Everyone" — Why This Widowed Father Will Fight You on That
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