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And this is how we get here - Keith Barker's This is How We Got Here

Season 4, Ep. 58

Linda speaks with Métis playwright, actor, and director, Keith Barker about his play, This is How We Got Here (Playwrights Canada Press) It is a moving interview, as Barker explains the origins and shape of this play.


Their discussions touch on the following subjects (among others!):

  • current and past productions of the play (3.00; 28.15; 34.10, 36.00)
  • loss and trauma (1.14, 1.50, 4.30, 6.10, 12.56, 19.20, 33.58)
  • structure of This is How We Got Here (1.20, 22.28, 23.25)
  • representations of grief (3.50, 25.08)
  • structure and shape of the play (5.48, 9.05)
  • fox figure (10.04, 17.01, 18.58, 20.45, 25.10, 33.00, 36.00)
  • play’s epigraph (from Jonathan Livingston Seagull, 10.30, 13.16, 15.40)
  • discussion of suicide (11.51, 21.40)
  • figures from nature (17.58)
  • Catholicism (20.45)
  • meaning of the title of the play (37.50)

Linda also invites Barker to read from his play, which he does, selecting the first scene related to the fox figure (25.25).


With a special thanks to James Healey, the podcasting studio manager - and Barker's cats, who also made an appearance in this interview!

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