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Drinking Tea with Monsters
Did Avril Lavigne die in 2003? Hidden compulsions in OCD. And the ghost in the well at Himeji Castle.
On this episode of Drinking Tea with Monsters, the podcast about OCD and other, less scary, monsters, Pri and Leela take an unexpected plunge into…the world of pants. Don’t ask why. No one really knows.
From there, things only get weirder as we uncover the truth behind one of pop culture’s wildest conspiracy theories: Did Avril Lavigne actually die in 2003 and get replaced by her look-alike, Melissa? We debate pop-punk’s legacy, millennial nostalgia, and whether the emo revival train ever actually stopped at the station. Along the way, we compare Avril’s story to similar mysteries surrounding Paul McCartney, Marilyn Monroe, and even Elvis.
Next, we explore the hidden side of OCD, the invisible compulsions that live inside the mind. From ruminating and reviewing to reassurance-seeking and avoidance, we unpack how mental rituals can be just as powerful (and exhausting) as the ones you can see.
And, of course, we drink tea with monsters. This week’s haunting guest: the ghosts of Himeji Castle, perched high on Mount Himeyama in Japan, a UNESCO World Heritage site with a chilling past.
Grab your favorite mug and tune in, it’s time to get curious, a little spooky, and maybe even a bit terrified this season.
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27. AI and the future of tech, The neuroscience of OCD, and tech era ghosts
01:13:55||Ep. 27This week we welcome special guest April Grant, Resident Counselor at Authentic Connections Counseling and Founder of True North Therapy PLLC, specializing in ADHD and OCD. We get into the tech era conundrums surrounding AI. The good, the bad, and the autonomous. Then we deep dive into the neuroscience behind OCD. How is the neurodivergent brain wired? How does it work? And can we retrain it to work with us? Leela and April walk through Leela's experience living with OCD and discuss examples of the OCD brain IRL. We end this weeks episode with two spooky occurrences. One in Virginia and one in Michigan.This week on Drinking Tea with Monsters, we’re joined by April Grant, resident counselor at Authentic Connections Counseling LLC and founder of True North Therapy PLLC, specializing in ADHD and OCD.First, we tackle the tech-era monster on everyone’s mind: AI. Is it a revolutionary tool, an ethical dilemma, or something more autonomous than we’re ready for? We unpack the promises, the fears, and the very real questions shaping the future of technology.Then we take a deep dive into the neuroscience of OCD. What’s actually happening in the neurodivergent brain? How is it wired differently? And most importantly, can we retrain it to work with us instead of against us? April explains the science, breaks it down for us with real-life examples of how the OCD brain shows up day-to-day, and we talk through Leela's lived experience with OCD.And because no episode would be complete without a haunting tale, we close with two eerie encounters, one from Virginia and one from Michigan, that might make you question what energies surround us in the modern world.Brains. Bots. Ghosts. Let’s sip. ☕️I'm, like, totally obsessed with...🤖 the dystopian AI futureOCDInternational OCD Foundation (IOCDF)Psychology TodayApril GrantAuthentic Connections Counseling LLCTrue North Therapy PLLCDTWM👻 Our true life encounters.Looking for another cozy listen?🎧 Check out Leela's other podcast, No Dating Till You're Married, an audiobook podcast. Gilmore Girls meets Crazy Rich Asians.Contact Us📱 IG: @drinkingteawithmonsters 📧 EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com
26. Back to the Future to take down AI, Punch the Monkey, Hypervigilence, and the ghostly love story of the Taj Mahal
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25. Spilling the Tea on a Puzzling Betrayal, OCD in Social Situations, and The Screaming Ghost of Loarre Castle
56:38||Ep. 25In this week’s episode of Drinking Tea with Monsters, Leela finally confronts Pri about the big puzzling betrayal and yes, we get into all of it. The girls spill the tea and break down the surprisingly competitive world of speed puzzling.We're totally obsessed with the Dunkin' Super Bowl commercial, steeped in 90s nostalgia and we explore the link between Joe Biden and Fall Out Boy.Then we deep dive into the overlaps between social anxiety and OCD, unpacking how OCD can impact your social life, relationships, and the way you move through the world.And to close us out, Pri tells the chilling story of the haunting of Loarre Castle, a medieval fortress where some say the walls still echo with something terrifying.Puzzles. Betrayal. OCD confessions. And a castle that screams. Put the kettle on, it’s about to get spooky!Our Current Watchlist📚Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt | 🎧Audiobook narrated by Michael Urie📚Lily and the Octopus by Steven Rowley | 🎧Audiobook narrated by Marin Ireland Michael Urie📚She Didn’t See it Coming by Shari Lapena📚I Hope this Finds You Well by Natalie Sue📚The Very Secret Society of Irregular Witches by Sangu Mandanna📺Good Cop/Bad Cop (Netflix)📺How to Get to Heaven from Belfast (Netflix)📺Derry Girls (Netflix)I'm, like, totally obsessed with...📼Dunkin' Super Bowl Commercial💿Fall Out BoyOCDInternational OCD Foundation (IOCDF)Psychology TodayDTWMLoarre Castle, SpainLooking for another cozy listen?Check out Leela's other podcast, No Dating Till You're Married, an audiobook podcast. Gilmore Girls meets Crazy Rich Asians.Contact UsIG: @drinkingteawithmonsters EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com
24. Even Disneyland isn't Disneyland: Traveling with OCD, The Cozy Winter Hibernation List of Things to Read/Watch/Listen To, and The Bells of the Frozen Post Office
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23. Happy Turning of the Clocks, Manifestations, Tarot, and other forms of Magical Thinking, and Ghostly New Year's Eve Traditions
01:04:58||Ep. 23This week on Drinking Tea With Monsters, the podcast about OCD and other, less scary monsters, we’re getting ready to not care about New Years Eve. We wax poetic about why time is a construct and other things that don't matter.Next Pri tells us about why butter is better and Leela share what she's obsessed with in comedy this week. Spoiler alert! It's a new special from Kumail Nanjiani.Finally, we Drink Tea With Monsters and meet the whimsical ghosts of New Year's Eve. Grab your tea, get comfy, and join us for a New Year's episode of Drinking Tea With Monsters, part mental health podcast, part holiday hang, part paranormal mystery.I'm, like, totally obsessed with...Kerrygold CheeseKerrygold ButterKumail Nanjiani's New Comedy Special, Night Thoughts (Watch it on Hulu or Disney+)The Big Sick (Watch it on Prime Video)No Dating Till You're Married, an audiobook podcastOnly Murders in the Building (Watch it on Hulu or Disney+)Ray RomanoOCDInternational OCD Foundation (IOCDF)Psychology TodayDTWMThe Ghosts of New Year's EveTangent StuffCheck out Leela's other podcast, No Dating Till You're Married, an audiobook podcast. Gilmore Girls meets Crazy Rich Asians.Contact UsIG: @drinkingteawithmonsters EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com
22. Hallmark Christmas Movie Quiz, No News is Good News, and the Annual Christmas Haunting of Raynham Hall
01:08:18||Ep. 22This week on Drinking Tea With Monsters, the podcast about OCD and other, less scary monsters, we’re getting into the Christmas spirit. This is a cosy, low-key holiday episode where we take it easy on the OCD and invite you to hang out with us in a warm, festive space.We kick things off with an unhinged recap of Leela's trip to the dentist. What kind of laughing gas are they giving out these days?Next, things get competitive with a Hallmark Christmas movie quiz. Leela challenges Pri to decide which of eight Christmas movie titles and descriptions are real, and which are completely made up. What’s at stake? First pick of our book/movie/TV club for 2026, and other fun treats!We also chat briefly about the news, with an important reminder that OCD is ego-dystonic.Finally, we Drink Tea With Monsters and explore the annual Christmas haunting of Raynham Hall in Norfolk, England, uncovering what might just be the definitive proof that ghosts are real. Grab your tea, get comfy, and join us for a Christmasy episode of Drinking Tea With Monsters, part mental health podcast, part holiday hang, part paranormal mystery.I'm, like, totally obsessed with...The Hallmark ChannelTwelve Dates 'Til ChristmasPizza Rolls by Totino'sKerrygold ButterOCDInternational OCD Foundation (IOCDF)Psychology TodayDTWMRaynham HallTangent StuffCheck out Leela's other podcast, No Dating Till You're Married, an audiobook podcast. Gilmore Girls meets Crazy Rich Asians.Contact UsIG: @drinkingteawithmonsters EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com
21. Emo Christmas, understanding anxiety vs. anxious OCD, and the dramatic ghosts of the Drury Lane Theater
56:13||Ep. 21This week on Drinking Tea With Monsters, the podcast about OCD and other, less scary monsters, we’re fully embracing our “I’m like, totally obsessed with…” era! We dive headfirst into an emo music revival, because some phases never really die. From From Under the Cork Tree to A Holiday From Real, we’re revisiting the albums that shaped our eyeliner-heavy souls, plus the song that kicked it all back into gear: “Fall For You” by Secondhand Serenade. (Yes, it still hits!)Then we get into it about anxiety and the overlap with anxious OCD. Pri and Leela talk about their experience with anxiety and how they're working through it.Finally, we Drink Tea with Monsters at the iconic Drury Lane Theatre in London, because sometimes monsters love a little drama!And of course, we go on a few tangents, like Pri’s bold take that Cars is basically a Hallmark movie. Grab your tea and join us for nostalgia, mental health tools, and the usual monster chaos!I'm, like, totally obsessed with...Emo music (now and again!). From Under the Cork Tree to a Holiday From Real, we're re-listening to it all!The song that restarted it all...Fall For You by Secondhand SerenadeCheck out @gravette.angela for more emo throwback inspiration!OCDInternational OCD Foundation (IOCDF)DTWMDrury Lane Theater (London, UK)Tangent StuffPri thinks Cars is like a Hallmark movie. Do you agree?Check out Leela's other podcast, No Dating Till You're Married, an audiobook podcast. Gilmore Girls meets Crazy Rich Asians.A Biltmore Christmas (Watch it on the Hallmark channel)Contact UsIG: @drinkingteawithmonsters EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com
20. Holiday fights, pies, and aliens, A deep dive into OCD subtypes, and the Macys employees that never leave
01:16:36||Ep. 20Grab your favorite mug and settle in, this week’s episode of Drinking Tea With Monsters is a blend of festive chaos, OCD insight, and retail hauntings.First, we dive headfirst into the holiday season’s most spirited traditions: family feuds, delicious pies, Hallmark Christmas movies and Pri makes an accusation that could drive the sisters apart.From there, we shift into something more grounded, and deeply important. We get into the second part of our interview with Mary Rogers Kirby of Creating Solutions. Mary Rogers is a Licensed Professional Counselor specializing in anxiety, OCD, and trauma. Mary Rogers takes us on a deep dive into our Q&A follow-up to our previous discussion on OCD subtypes. We chat about religion, scrupulosity, and navigating motherhood and postpartum with OCD. Finally, we stay true to the Thanksgiving theme by going shopping! We visit the Macy's at Herald Square and 34th street and hang out with the ghosts at the iconic department store.Grab a brew, get cosy, and join us to Drink Tea with Monsters.I'm, like, totally obsessed with...Resident Aliens (Watch it on Peacock, Hulu, or Netflix)Do watch: Hart of Dixie (on Amazon Prime)Don’t watch: Virgin River (on Netflix)Mom’s Apple Pie Company (Virginia)Follow: @WhatNavEats On IG and TikTokOCDMary Rogers Kirby (Psychology Today)Creating SolutionsDTWMMacys, Herald Square, NYCContact UsIG: @drinkingteawithmonsters EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com
19. The curious relationship between Britney Spears and George W. Bush, OCD subtypes, and the productive ghosts of Eureka Springs
01:00:17||Ep. 19This week on Drinking Tea with Monsters, the podcast about OCD and other, less scary monster, we kick off the episode by hearing about the canoodling of Britney Spears and Karl Rove. What? And how did that lead to a relationship between Britney Spears and George W. Bush? Grab your tea and get comfy 'cuz it’s a whole journey!Next, we sit down with Mary Rogers Kirby of Creating Solutions. Mary Rogers is a Licensed Professional Counselor specializing in anxiety, OCD, and trauma. Mary Rogers takes us on a deep dive into OCD subtypes, everything from the well-known varieties like contamination fears and checking, to lesser-known themes like relationship OCD and religious scrupulosity.Then Pri whisks us off to Arkansas for a spirited visit to the famously haunted Crescent Hotel in Eureka Springs, where the ghosts are surprisingly productive but they still know how to have a good time.So pour yourself something warm, get comfortable, and join us for another delightfully chill episode of Drinking Tea with Monsters.I'm, like, totally obsessed with...Happy Birthday Britney Spears!OCDMary Rogers Kirby (Psychology Today)Creating SolutionsDTWMCrescent Moon Hotel, Eureka SpringsContact UsIG: @drinkingteawithmonsters EMAIL: drinkingteamwithmosters@gmail.com