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What the Impact of Distributed Work on Organisational Networks Tells Us About the Future of Talent Management (an Interview with Michael Arena)
How is the shift to hybrid and distributed work reshaping the very fabric of your organisation’s networks? And how you can leverage these changes to build more effective teams and drive business success?
In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Michael Arena, a pioneer in Organisational Network Analysis (ONA), to explore how networks have evolved since the height of the pandemic.
Listen in as they explore:
- How organisational networks have evolved in a distributed work environment
- Key findings from Michael’s research on optimal team size
- How HR leaders can implement network analysis insights to drive strategic action
- The role of AI in facilitating ONA and the future of network research
This episode, sponsored by Workday, is essential listening for HR leaders looking to optimise team dynamics and embrace the power of organisational networks to thrive in today’s world of work.
Workday is a leading provider of enterprise cloud applications for HR and finance, recognised as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud HCM Suites.
Organisations ranging from medium-sized businesses to more than 50% of the Fortune 500— including Netflix, Sanofi, AstraZeneca, and Rolls Royce—have chosen Workday to build their HR systems and implement Workforce Analytics solutions. Join them and learn more at workday.com
Links to Resources:
- Michael Arena on LinkedIn: Michael Arena
- Workday: Workday
- MyHRFuture Academy: MyHRFuture
- Insight222: Insight222
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