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Britain's bad decade?
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On this episode of Democracy Sausage, regular UK-based guests Elizabeth Ames and Sophia Gaston join Mark Kenny to discuss the British government’s leadership chaos and the ongoing Brexit fallout.
Is the elevation of Rishi Sunak to the prime ministership the end of the Conservative Party’s leadership turmoil? What impact might this instability have at the next national election? And what will a new prime minister mean for the United Kingdom’s relationships with Europe and beyond? On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Chair of the Menzies Australia Institute at King’s College London Elizabeth Ames and Head of Foreign Policy and UK Resilience at Policy Exchange Sophia Gaston join Professor Mark Kenny to discuss the recent upheaval in British politics.
Sophia Gaston is Head of Foreign Policy and UK Resilience at Policy Exchange, one of the United Kingdom's leading think tanks. She is also a Research Fellow at the Institute for Global Affairs at the London School of Economics and Political Science and an Academic Fellow at the European Policy Centre in Brussels.
Elizabeth Ames is the Chief Operating Officer of Atalanta, a mission-driven firm with a focus on advancing women’s leadership worldwide. She is the Chair of the Menzies Australia Institute at King’s College London and a Director of the Britain-Australia Society.
Mark Kenny is a Professor at ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the university after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, and The Canberra Times.
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