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148. Fairer NDAs | Rise of gaming divisions | Charlie Rudd profile
When Dept opened a games-focused division called Dept/Games, the agency cited a vast majority of younger audiences identifying as gamers (88% of Gen Z) as a reason for creating the division.
Campaign’s technology and gaming editor Coral Cripps quizzes Suzy Barnes, chief executive of Diva, Brent Koning, global lead at Dentsu Gaming, and Rachel Rakowski, global head of gaming at We Are Social.
They discuss industry trends, favourite campaigns and why more agencies are dedicating entire teams and divisions towards gaming.
Campaign's creativity and culture editor Gurjit Degun and work and inspiration editor Imogen Watson also comment on the latest articles on this website, including a profile piece on Charlie Rudd, group chief executive at Publicis.Poke, Leo Burnett and Fallon, and a feature on non-disclosure agreements.
With Charlie Rudd at the helm, Leo Burnett UK achieved an “excellent” score of eight in Campaign's School Reports this year – also taking home the Creative Agency, Creative Leader and Strategic Leader trophies at Campaign’s Agency of the Year Awards.
Further reading:
Charlie Rudd: the man who makes you want to buy
Harassment in adland: agencies hesitate in stamping out gagging clauses
Dept launches gaming division after finding '88% of Gen Z are gamers'
Gaming-focused agency Diva launches media division
We Are Social appoints global head of gaming division
Dentsu hires Electronic Arts exec to head global gaming ops
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17:06||Season 4, Ep. 90Campaign's Media 360 opened its doors last week to a room of senior marketers, media owners and agency leaders. Food critic and Masterchef presenter Grace Dent opened the two-day conference in Brighton with speakers including co-host of The Rest Is Politics, Alastair Campbell, The Guardian's global chief advertising officer Imogen Fox and Michelle Spillane, managing director, Paddy Power Online at Flutter UK.This episode features the event's co-chairs: Sannah Rogers, chief executive of Zenith UK, and James Bailey, chief executive of Dentsu Media UK and Ireland. They chat to Campaign's tech and multimedia editor Lucy Shelley about their reflections on the media industry following the conference and discuss the biggest changes affecting the media industry and the people in it.Before the interview, media editor Beau Jackson and deputy media editor Shauna Lewis chat with Shelley on their reflections after day one, on themes of trust, community and Big Tech.Further reading:PepsiCo on how a media shake-up boosted OOHBauer’s Thomas Garry wins Media360 Challenge 2026How Just Eat and British Heart Foundation manage brand risk in influencer marketingGuardian ads chief: Brands need to embrace cultural turbulence'If you ask us to make an AI ad, we will inherently fail': Particle6 on AI in production
90. Is adland in danger of undervaluing mentoring?
30:51||Season 4, Ep. 90The advertising and media industry is going through a period of massive change, as a result of AI, economic and global pressures, organisational restructures and redundancies. In the latest market report from Campaign Red called “The Great Reboot”, we reported that the top holding companies cut 12,000 people from their businesses.As the industry is contracting, how are the people within it, its leaders and those seeking employment obtaining mentorship to push themselves and the industry forward?So far this year, we have seen the launch of mentorships schemes from The Marketing Skills Trust, Ogilvy UK and Rapp UK, an expansion of Lollipop mentoring’s existing programme and launch of Zoo.London’s career community.In this episode, Campaign's editorial team discusses why mentoring is so important in periods of rapid change, if adland puts enough value on the power of mentoring, and what happens if it’s neglected altogether. Fiona Cameron joins the episode as vice president of women’s professional support programme Bloom, and former learning and development partner at Group M, now called WPP Media. From Campaign, the episode features deputy editor Gemma Charles, deputy creativity and culture editor Charlotte Rawlings, and hosted by tech and multimedia editor Lucy Shelley.Further reading:Campaign Inspiring Women Awards winners 2026: Mentor of the YearWhat does it take to be an ad agency chief executive?
89. What’s wrong with being a holding company?
28:16||Season 4, Ep. 89Adland’s agency networks have been forced to think differently, after a challenging year for holding companies with economic instability, a mega-merger and AI disruption.Publicis began calling itself a “platform organisation” years ago, while Omnicom restructured to become a “premier marketing and sales company” after the acquisition of IPG last year. In February, WPP’s chief executive Cindy Rose said: “We don’t want to be a holding company any more”, but a “single operating company” instead.Campaign Red released a market report called "The big reboot", looking into the top network's 2025 FY results and what the post-holding company era looks like for the industry.In this episode, Campaign's editorial team is discussing why the largest agency groups are moving away from the holding company label, and what this "reboot" means. Editor-in-chief Gideon Spanier, media editor Beau Jackson and deputy media editor Shauna Lewis join the episode hosted by tech and multimedia editor Lucy Shelley.Further reading:Arthur Sadoun on why “pressure” from investors doesn’t matter, Publicis' “resilience” and the competitionPublicis grows 4.5% in Q1 as Arthur Sadoun pans “squeeze to please Wall Street”Q1 expected to be “worst quarter” for WPP’s new business in 2026WPP reports 6.7% revenue decline in Q1 2026Omnicom revenue grew 3.9% in Q1 after IPG acquisitionChapter 1: RevenueChapter 2: HeadcountChapter 3: M&AChapter 4: Share priceChapter 5: New businessChapter 6: Creative awardsAA/Warc: adspend forecast for 2026 drops amid methodology shake-up“The fragmentation of media is clear”: adland reacts to AA/Warc Expenditure ReportAA/Warc: adspend to break records and smash £50bn ceiling in 2026
88. What do the ITV, Warner Bros and Telegraph deals mean for advertisers?
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87. Does sports marketing need "disrupting"?
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85. How responsible are brands for online safety on social platforms?
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84. Why are in-house teams taking top talent from agencies?
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