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The Business Of Modelling
Francine Champagne, President of Vision Models LA
Francine Champagne is President of Vision Los Angeles and a leading force in modern model management. Her career began in New Orleans as a model, but it wasn’t long before she discovered her true passion behind the scenes - scouting talent, developing careers, and shaping the future of the industry. After stints as a model in Japan, Paris and New York, she began her career agency-side at Elite Los Angeles, where she played a key role in launching the careers of future stars like Cameron Diaz.
In this episode, Francine shares how she co-founded Champagne Trott, later evolving it into Vision LA and what sets her agency apart. She speaks about building a business with heart, the importance of maintaining balance as a working mother, and why personal connection still matters. With decades of wisdom and plenty of standout stories, Francine brings depth, clarity, and humour to the realities of model management today.
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58. Antony Fitzgerald, Classic Model & Founder of New Silver Generation
48:32||Ep. 58Antony Fitzgerald is a classic model and the founder of New Silver Generation, a community he created to champion older models and talent, particularly older people of colour. In this episode, he reflects on coming into modelling at 50 years old, after earlier careers in PR and teaching and he speaks about his view of how the industry was shaped by his father and sister who had both modelled before him. He talks about the lack of visibility he noticed when he first started for older models of colour who did not fit a narrow commercial stereotype. Antony explains why New Silver Generation was created, not as an agency, but as a space to be seen in a more individual and expressive way. This conversation also looks at how older models are often boxed into limited roles, and why age should not be treated as a restriction in casting. Antony speaks about confidence, personal style, personality and life experience, and challenges the assumption that older talent should only be shown in quiet, grey or “grandparent” roles. He also discusses the importance of international visibility, how working in different markets helped shift how he was seen, and what agencies, brands and clients may be missing when they fail to look beyond age, statistics or stereotypes. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk www.newsilvergeneration.co.uk
57. Ines Celine Le Gousse, Fashion Model & Journalist
35:07||Ep. 57Ines Celine Le Gousse is a model and journalist who writes about her realities of the modelling and fashion industry. In this episode, she reflects on her own experience as a model, from being scouted in London to working across Paris, Milan, Athens and London, and speaks honestly about what the job can involve beyond the image people often see from the outside. She talks through the pressures that can come with high fashion modelling, particularly around body standards, sample sizes and the lack of control models can feel when so much depends on being chosen. Ines also discusses the contrast between the public perception of modelling and the reality of the work, including the long hours, constant judgement and the impact this can have on confidence, health and self-image. Alongside this, Ines speaks about her move into journalism and why writing has become an important way for her to examine the industry with more distance and honesty. She reflects on the importance of education, support systems and having something outside modelling that gives models a sense of identity and worth beyond appearance. The conversation also looks at what still needs to change, the role agencies can play in supporting talent, and why models should be treated as people first, not just as part of the final image. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk
56. Jody Furlong, Founder of The Eye Casting
51:42||Ep. 56Jody Furlong is the founder of The Eye Casting, working across fashion, advertising and commercial campaigns, with a focus on casting that feels current and grounded in relatable people. In this episode, he reflects on how he built his career in casting - from early work in the industry to establishing an agency and developing a clear approach to finding the right talent for each brief. He talks through what casting involves day to day, from interpreting briefs to managing clients’ expectations, and explains why understanding what a brand is really asking for is often more important than what is written down. He also shares the realities behind casting decisions, the challenges that can come with unclear direction, and the importance of communication, organisation and experience in delivering a job properly. Alongside this, Jody discusses how the industry has evolved over time, including the shift towards more inclusive and real people casting, changes in how briefs are written, and the growing need to balance creative ideas with what is achievable in practice. He reflects on working closely with agents and production teams, the pressures of delivering at pace, and why getting the right fit remains central to any successful campaign. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk www.theeyecasting.co.uk
55. Daisy Pettinger & Freddie Abrahams, Commercial Model Couple
01:05:58||Ep. 55Freddie Abrahams and Daisy Pettinger have both built long-term careers in modelling, working across fashion, lifestyle and commercial campaigns in the UK and internationally. In this episode, they reflect on how they each entered the industry through very different routes, what it took to build careers that lasted, and how the realities of modelling changed once it became their full-time work. They speak openly about rejection, confidence and the difficulty of separating personal feelings from professional outcomes in an industry where appearance is so closely tied to opportunity. They also talk about the pressure of freelance life, the unpredictability of the work, and how important availability, resilience and professionalism can be in sustaining a career over time. Alongside this, Freddie and Daisy discuss what it is like to work together as a couple, how the industry has changed since they first started, and how becoming parents has shifted the way they think about work. They reflect on balancing family life with the demands of modelling, the benefits and challenges of both working freelance, and how their priorities have evolved as they have got older. www.businessofmodelling.co.ukwww.sandrareynolds.co.uk/model/freddie-abrahamswww.sandrareynolds.co.uk/model/daisy-pettinger
54. Dan Kennedy, Celebrity Portrait Photographer
45:13||Ep. 54Dan Kennedy is a celebrity portrait photographer working across advertising and editorial, with a portfolio that includes some of the most recognisable names in the world from Keira Knightly and Angelina Jolie to David Beckham and Gordon Ramsay. His career has developed from early press photography through to high-profile portrait work, giving him a broad understanding of both the technical and practical side of the industry. In this episode, he speaks about the reality of working as a photographer, from navigating freelance life and building relationships to managing shoots with high-profile talent under tight timeframes. He explains how much of the role sits beyond taking the picture, with preparation, organisation and problem-solving playing a central part in delivering a successful shoot. He also shares how the industry has evolved, with faster turnaround times, increasing demand for content and the growing importance of behind-the-scenes visibility. As expectations continue to shift, he highlights the need to stay adaptable, maintain consistency and continue developing both creatively and commercially over time. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk www.danielkennedy.com
53. Natalia Littman, Agent & Producer at Icon London
53:42||Ep. 53Natalia Littman is an agent and producer at Icon London, working across photography, production and creative representation. With experience on both the agency and production side, she brings a clear understanding of how creative work is developed, managed and delivered from initial brief through to final output. In this episode, she speaks about the realities of working behind the scenes in the industry, from representing photographers and building their portfolios to managing clients, budgets and production on set. She explains how much of the role is built on relationships, consistency and understanding how to position talent in the right way. She also shares how the industry has evolved, with increased competition, higher budgets and the impact of social media changing how creatives are discovered and presented. With more people entering the space, she highlights the importance of clarity, editing and knowing how to present your work effectively. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk www.icon-london.com
52. Lauren Gregory, Director at Crumb Agency
51:22||Ep. 52Lauren Gregory is the founder of Crumb Agency, a London-based casting and talent agency representing people across fashion, editorial and creative projects. Her work focuses on casting individuals with personality, perspective and cultural relevance, moving away from traditional model boards and towards a more human-led approach. In this episode, she talks about her journey through the industry, from modelling and working in music to building businesses in hospitality, before returning to the creative world to launch Crumb, and how those experiences shaped the way she approaches casting today. She explains why she chose to build an agency around “humans” rather than traditional models, and how that reflects a wider shift in what brands are looking for. As casting evolves, there is a growing focus on individuality, lived experience and authenticity, with clients placing more value on people who feel real and culturally connected. She also discusses how casting has changed in practice, from the rise of self-tapes to the importance of personality and connection on set, and why genuine interaction often leads to stronger creative outcomes. Alongside this, Lauren shares her perspective on the role of AI within the industry, recognising its impact while reinforcing the importance of human connection, instinct and conversation in creative work. She also offers insight into building an agency with a different perspective, the challenges of doing things outside of traditional structures, and why staying clear on your values is key when navigating an industry that continues to evolve. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk www.crumbagency.com
51. Danni Bramall, Brand and E-commerce Strategist
51:03||Ep. 51Danni Bramall is a brand and e-commerce strategist who works with businesses to strengthen how they present themselves, trade online and connect with their customers. Her work sits across brand, content and digital commerce, with a focus on making sure creative output is aligned with commercial performance. In this episode, Danni talks about how e-commerce has become central not only to sales, but also to how modelling work is created and delivered. With the shift from traditional retail to digital platforms, brands now rely on a constant stream of content, placing increased demand on shoots, casting and production. She explains how models play a key role in this environment, not just in wearing the product, but in bringing it to life, creating connection and helping drive conversion. From movement and expression to storytelling and relatability, she highlights why the human element remains essential within e-commerce. Alongside this, she discusses the increasing pressure on brands to produce more content with tighter budgets, and how this is influencing decisions around casting, production and the use of technology. She reflects on the rise of AI within e-commerce, where it can support efficiency, but also where it risks reducing opportunities and removing the human connection that makes content effective. She also shares her perspective on how the industry may evolve, suggesting a shift where AI is used at scale, while real models become more valuable for campaigns, storytelling and higher quality content. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk
50. Marie Owen, Founder & CEO of LS Productions
54:38||Ep. 50Marie Owen, founder and CEO of LS Productions, a Scotland-based production company working across advertising, film and content. She has built the business into one of the UK’s leading production companies, delivering campaigns both nationally and internationally. In this episode, Marie talks about how LS Productions was built, starting without all the answers and learning through hands-on experience across as the business grew. She shares the realities of working in production, including the level of organisation required, the pace of the industry and the responsibility of managing complex shoots with multiple moving parts. Marie reflects on working closely with agencies, brands and talent, and explains the role production plays in delivering a campaign from concept through to shoot. She discusses the importance of clear communication, strong relationships and practical decision-making, particularly when working under pressure and tight timelines on live productions. Alongside this, she speaks about leadership and building a team, highlighting how a successful production company relies on the people within it rather than any one individual. She also touches on knowing when to say no, protecting standards and maintaining a strong culture as the business grows. www.businessofmodelling.co.uk www.lsproductions.com