Bubble Trouble: Laying Out Inconvenient Truths About How Business and Financial Markets Really Work

This week we talk with Linda Yueh, author of the book The Great Crashes. Since America's Wall Street Crash of 1929, the global economy has weathered the most tumultuous century in financial history. From the currency crises of the 1980s, to Japan's housing meltdown, the dot com boom and bust, the global financial crash and the COVID pandemic, crash after crash has sent shockwaves through our world. The Great Crashes tells the stories of ten of these historic financial events. They serve as a series of cautionary tales, each with their own lessons to be learnt. With clear-eyed analysis, renowned economist Professor Linda Yueh uses these meltdowns to extract a critical three-step framework to help recognise the early signs of a crash, mitigate the effects and even prevent them in the future. There is very little that is certain in economics, except for this: there will be another financial crisis. [Repeat from March 2024]For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)Understanding Economic Bubbles and Crises: Insights from Linda YuThis episode of Bubble Trouble features Richard Kramer and Will Page in conversation with Linda Yu, the author of 'The Great Crashes', discussing lessons from historical economic downturns and ways to prevent future crises. Yu shares her unique perspectives drawn from her experiences in journalism, academia, and having been a witness to several economic crashes. The conversation covers the dynamics of bubbles, the role of banks and debt in triggering financial crises, regulatory challenges, the impact of policy decisions on economic inequality, and the specific case of China's impending financial instability. Throughout, the importance of understanding human nature's role in financial markets and the necessity for credible crisis management strategies are underscored.00:02 Introduction00:47 Part One00:47 Introducing Linda Yu: From BBC to Authorship01:34 Linda Yu's Journey: Academia, Books, and Economic Crashes02:06 The Making of 'The Great Crashes': A Deep Dive into Economic Meltdowns06:04 Understanding Crises: The Three Phases of Economic Downturns08:47 The Role of Banks in Economic Crises: A Critical Examination15:12 Regulatory Challenges and the Shadow Banking System22:06 Educational Insights: The Importance of Economic History26:52 The Eurocrisis and Bail-Ins: A New Approach to Banking Failures29:58 Part Two30:10 Preview of Part Two: Further Explorations into Economic Crises31:16 Exploring Economic Festivals and the Humor in Economics32:06 The Serious Side of Economic Crime in China32:14 Navigating the Iceberg: China's Economic Challenges33:07 The Next Great Crush: Predicting China's Economic Future33:39 The Intricacies of China's Banking System and Property Bubble34:56 China's Influence on Global Markets and Emerging Economies35:30 China's Unique Approach to Big Tech Regulation39:25 The Consequences of Financial Penalties on Banks41:03 Preventing the Next Great Crash: Policy Levers and Their Effectiveness46:13 The Unintended Consequences of Economic Policies55:10 Crisis Management and the Importance of Credibility59:19 Final Thoughts and the Future of Economic Crises01:00:30 Credits

Today, we welcome back Feargal Sharkey, who visited Bubble Trouble last summer and dropped a (water) bomb on our privatized utilities. He’s fought the noble fight to expose Thames Water as profiteering polluters. Nine months later we have a massive credit bubble bursting, dumping toxic sewage in both debt laden shell companies and the real shit floating in our rivers and seas, while private equity owners took out £78bn of dividends since privatization kicked in. A warning: this conversation should make everyone angry, whether you draw a drink, go for a wild swim, or just watch your rising water bill - asking how this utility privatization bubble caused so much trouble. [Repeat from April 2024}For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)This episode of Bubble Trouble features hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page, with return guest Fergal Sharkey, discussing the failing state of privatized water companies in England. Highlighted are the issues of excessive dividends extracted by private equity owners, the massive debt incurred by water companies, regulatory failures, and the environmental costs of pollution. Sharkie shares his firsthand experiences with water pollution and regulatory battles. The episode delves into the implications of privatization on public resources, the potential for nationalization, and the urgent need for systemic reform in water management amidst mounting public outrage and the looming crisis of water scarcity in London. The conversation encapsulates the complexities of privatization, the financial engineering driving the water industry's woes, and the palpable need for political and regulatory intervention.00:00 Introduction00:55 Introducing Repeat Guest Fergal Sharkey: A Deep Dive into Water Industry Woes00:59 Part One01:28 Fergal Sharkey's Journey: From Fly Fishing to Fighting Water Privatization03:27 The Alarming State of England's Privatized Water Industry06:47 Investigative Journalism and the Mainstream Media's Role07:44 Exploring the Nationalization Debate and Its Complexities11:06 Regulatory Failures and the Environmental Catastrophe14:27 The Financial Quagmire: Debt, Dividends, and the Dire State of Infrastructure22:00 Addressing the Bondholders: A Call for Accountability27:12 Part Two27:12 Looking Ahead: Solutions and the Future of Water Privatization31:49 The Inefficiency of Global Success32:11 System-Level Solutions for Water Management33:14 The Looming Water Crisis in London34:01 Government's Role in Managing the Water Industry34:42 The Financial Challenge of Securing London's Water Supply35:27 Reforming the Water Industry: A Shift in Earnings and Management35:59 Empathy for the Regulator and the Need for Investment41:10 Nationalizing the Water Companies: A Strategic Move47:04 Political Pressure and Regulatory Challenges49:42 Privatization's Failures and Future Directions55:20 Concluding Thoughts and the Public's Role57:34 Credits

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.comIn this milestone 100th episode of Bubble Trouble podcast, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page converse with former Enron CFO, Andy Fastow, discussing the downfall of Enron, financial regulation, the financial crisis, and the manipulation of financial statements. Fastow delves into the fine line between legal and illegal practices in finance, highlighting how business leaders can inject more risk than they realize when operating within the 'gray areas' of business and finance. He also shares his insights into public pension liabilities, the potential tipping point for public finances, and how the perception of different companies can drastically change based on financial reporting and assumptions. [Repeat from December 2023]0:00 BT 101 In Conversation with Former Enron CFO Andy Fastow Part Two00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble00:42 Part One19:03 Exploring the Role of Technology in Financial Crises22:20 Understanding the Impact of Government Accounting29:09 Enron's Advisory Board and Structured Finance Deals30:11 Reflections on Enron's Financial Practices30:41 Government's Financial Engineering30:58 Imputed Rent and Government Statistics32:25 Part Two32:25 Inflation and its Impact32:25 Inequality and Low Interest Rates32:40 The Role of Analysts and Ethics in Finance33:34 The University of Colorado Case Study49:29 Closing Thoughts on Ethics and Reciprocity in Finance52:59 Credits

For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.comIn this 100th episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page discuss the inner workings of business and financial markets, shedding light on their truths via conversations with their guest, former CFO of Enron, Andy Fastow. They discuss the key factors that led to the downfall of Enron, including the exploitation of accounting 'loopholes' and the destructive impact of mark-to-market accounting and how it leads companies into a risk-laden gray area of business. They also cover the issues surrounding operating leases, addressing the ethical debate of 'genius' vs 'evil'. Furthermore, they delve into insightful examples of business mishaps and financial irregularities including the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank. Fastow expresses his regret and responsibility for Enron's downfall, highlighting the difference between technically following the accounting rules and creating misleading financial impressions of a company. [Repeat from November 2023]0:00 BT 100 In Conversation with Former Enron CFO Andy Fastow Part One00:02 Introduction00:02 Introduction and Overview of Bubble Trouble00:15 Reflecting on Past Episodes and Topics00:41 Unpacking the Enron Scandal01:23 Part One01:25 Interview with Andy Fastow, Former CFO of Enron08:33 Understanding the Role of Auditors and Attorneys10:59 Exploring the Concept of Loopholes13:46 The Reality of Operating in the Gray Area25:46 The Distinction Between Different Types of Fraud27:19 The Conflict of Interest in Financial Analysis28:53 Part Two28:53 Continuation of Conversation with Andy Fastow30:43 Enron's Acquisition and Financing Strategy31:14 The Use of Operating Leases in Enron32:46 The Legal Hurdles and Creative Solutions35:56 The Impact of Financial Innovation38:11 The Dangers of Mark to Market Accounting41:53 The Role of Incentives in Financial Reporting46:56 The Case of Silicon Valley Bank53:42 The Role of Analysts and Banks in Financial Misrepresentation54:54 Closing Remarks and Preview of Part Two55:31 Credits

This week, we freeform on two topics: summer music festivals and the stock markets. Will has identified a very interesting bubble this summer, which is the rapid cancellation of music festivals. Perhaps because supply got ahead of demand or perhaps because of extraneous factors, we wanna look into why so few people want to be standing out in their field or outstanding in their field. We're also gonna talk a little bit about the way in which random comments from politicians are roiling the stock markets.For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)In this episode of Bubble Trouble, economist Will Page and independent analyst Richard Kramer discuss the rapid cancellation of music festivals amidst the backdrop of a post-pandemic economic squeeze and over-supply of events. They detail the impact on the live music ecosystem, examining how financial constraints and shifting consumer choices are reshaping the market. Additionally, they delve into how random political comments are affecting the stock markets, with a specific focus on a recent market wobble triggered by remarks from Donald Trump and the narrowing breadth of tech stock support. The episode links the volatility in both the live music industry and financial markets, providing a comprehensive analysis of the current economic landscape.00:00 Introduction to Bubble Trouble00:58 Part One00:58 The Decline of Music Festivals02:09 Supply and Demand in Live Music04:14 Economic Factors Affecting Festivals07:29 The Impact on the Music Ecosystem08:38 Dynamic Pricing and Ticketing Issues15:44 The Future of Live Music and Festivals20:33 Part Two21:10 Market Turmoil: What's Happening?22:39 The Fragility of the Market23:37 Political Impact on Markets24:12 Investor Reactions and Strategies29:56 Global Market Contagion33:23 The Tech Sector's Wild Ride34:40 Political Volatility and Market Uncertainty41:44 Credits

[Repeat from November, 2023.]For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)In this engaging episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page welcome Liam Maxwell, former Chief Technology Officer for the British government and current AWS Senior Advisor, to delve into the transformative potential of the cloud. Together, they break down how cloud-based technologies are revolutionizing different sectors, from governments to private enterprises. Exploring clear cases such as the Ukrainian war situation or the everyday banking experience in Singapore, they highlight the impressive efficiency, flexibility, and speed offered by the cloud. The discussion also touches on the major productivity gains the cloud provides, the importance of building services centered on user needs, and how the digital economy is captured by government indices.00:00 Introduction01:14 Part One01:32 Interview with Liam Maxwell01:54 Liam's Journey in Tech and Government02:25 The Impact of Cloud on Government Services06:40 The Transition from Traditional IT to Cloud15:25 The Role of AI in Cloud Adoption19:24 The Ukraine War and the Role of Cloud20:35 The Process of Moving Ukraine's Data to the Cloud27:56 Reflections on the Impact of Cloud Technology29:33 The Power of Decision Making in Amazon30:26 Reflections on the UK Government's Test and Trace App30:58 Part Two31:27 The Impact of Cloud Technology on Productivity32:01 The Economic Value of Cloud Technology33:33 The Paradox of Technological Efficiency and Economic Growth35:38 The Invisible Contributions of Transformative Technology37:04 The Role of Cloud Technology in Government Services39:00 The Challenges of Measuring the Impact of Tech Jobs39:19 The Potential of Cloud Technology in Enhancing Public Services51:57 The Impact of Tech Neologisms on Service Delivery55:23 Closing Remarks and Reflections56:25 Credits

This week, part two of our continued conversation with Benedict Evans, an analyst with over 175,000 avid readers for his tech blog. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page delve into the intricacies of technology bubbles with special guest Benedict Evans. The discussion revolves around AI advancements, particularly focusing on Apple's recent integrations of AI models, the differentiation between small and large models, and the implications for email summarization and other features. They explore the economic and strategic decisions behind Apple's use of AI, the potential for various large language models (LLMs) to disrupt industries like legal tech, and the broader market dynamics and antitrust considerations. The conversation also touches on the challenges and opportunities presented by these technological advancements, emphasizing the importance of careful analysis and skepticism in the face of rapid innovation.00:03 Introduction00:29 Part One00:29 AI and Apple's New Developments01:53 Apple's AI Integration and Market Dynamics04:20 The Evolution of AI Models and Market Impact12:29 Antitrust and Market Strategies17:34 Cloud Computing and Business Models24:49 The Future of Cloud Machine Learning Providers25:36 Marginal Costs in Consumer Internet Companies26:16 Generative AI and Cost Efficiency28:14 Part Two28:14 Legal Tech and Large Language Models30:05 Challenges in Selling Software to Law Firms31:08 Error Rates and AI Hallucinations34:36 Practical Use Cases for AI in Legal Scenarios36:27 Evaluating AI's Potential and Limitations41:05 Recognizing Tech Bubbles and Market Hype44:59 Concluding Thoughts on AI and Market Trends47:27 Credits

This week we are talking bubbles - or not! - with Benedict Evans, an analyst with over 175,000 avid readers for his tech blog. We’ve done our level best to reflect on why bubbles happen, but what about calling them out  before they burst. “It would have been nice to have known” we were in a bubble before it caused trouble. That wish fits like an OJ Simpson glove into a recent column by Benedict exploring how and when to call them. With AI mania and NVIDIA up 130% this year and 700% in 18 months, lifting many other boats with it, this will be a timely conversation. For more on Bubble Trouble, including transcripts of the show, visit us online at http://bubbletroublepodcast.comYou can learn more about Richard at https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kramer-16306b2/More on Will Page at: https://pivotaleconomics.com(Times below correspond to the episode without considering any inserted advertisements.)In this episode of Bubble Trouble, hosts Richard Kramer and Will Page delve into the phenomenon of market bubbles with tech analyst Benedict Evans. They discuss the intricacies of identifying bubbles before they burst, explore the role and future implications of Artificial Intelligence (AI), and touch upon how companies disclose crucial data. Benedict shares his career journey and insights on tech market dynamics, providing a detailed perspective on AI's potential impacts and strategic questions surrounding tech advancements. This episode offers a mix of reflective analysis and forward-looking forecasts in the tech landscape.00:00 Introduction 01:06 Meet Benedict Evans01:22 Benedict's Career Journey02:59 The Art of Simplifying Complex Points07:48 The Role of Public Companies in Market Bubbles13:01 Tech Industry Cycles and Bubbles19:56 Part Two20:13 Generative AI: The Next Big Thing?36:44 The Future of AI and Its Impact39:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts40:20 Credits