Brillantes.

Welcome to Brillantes,the podcast with a French accent, which gives a voice to women who move the lines. My name is Jeanne du Sartel and between Zurich, where I live, and Paris where I come from, my goal is to meet the sparkling, powerful, talented and inspiring women, with atypical backgrounds and beautiful projects, to understand what drives them and makes them move forward.Discussions that, I hope, will encourage you to think outside the box, cross your boundaries and develop your own brilliant projects. 

Zineb Hattab is one of those women who have had the courage to make a radical career change.After having studied engineering for many years, she got stuck in a job which was too stable and secure for her taste.Zineb - Zizi, as eveyone calls her, left her job a software engineer to become a chef. Fearless, convinced that hard work and determination would take her where she really wanted to be, the young Spanish woman knocked on the doors of the world's greatest chefs. And it worked!Andreas Caminada, Massimo Bottura, Dan Barber or Daniela Sotto Ines, became her mentors. Having worked in starred restaurants all over the world, she returns to her city of adoption, Zurich, and creates the place of her dreams. The Kle Restaurant, an intimate vegan place in the heart of trendy Zurich is born.Together we talk about her path, her choices and about the importance of education. She explains her choice of being vegan and the origins of her cuisine. We talk about the Covid crisis of course and you will hear us discuss the role of women in this still completely male-dominated sector.So for all lovers of fine cuisine wanting to understand its secrets, those who believe in the richness of diversity, or those who also want to also make real career change, plug in your headphones and enjoy...Time codes4:13 Zizi’s mother as a brilliant figure 05:02 Chefs and the medias 06:27 How chefs can educate people 07:43 The plant-based choice 10:05 From a traditional to a vegan cuisine 11:35 The perception of veganism13:50 Adapting to the Covid threat 16:00 Creating a team with as many women as men in a male-dominated environment 17:51 A catalan childhood, with Moroccan parents 19:51 Becoming a software engineer21:14 Falling in love with Switzerland 22:37 Shifting from engineering to gastronomy 24:17 Money questions and first scares26:01 The first gastronomic experience : with the chef Josean Alija, at Nerua (Spain)27:02 Getting train by her mentor, Andreas Caminda (Schauenstein Castle, Switzerland) 29:34 The magic and power of starred restaurants and their chefs 31:29 The US experience : with Dan Barber (Blue Hill, NYC) and Daniela Soto-Innes (Cosme, NY), the best female chef in the world 32:50 Gastronomy as the less hospitable place to work in35:15 The mission of the chefs 36:01 Kitchens, still vey much men dominated 37:01 Women should empower women, always! 39:07 Creating her own restaurant, in Zurich 40:13 Zurich is becoming a gastronomic hub42:21 The Kle Restaurant as a dining room with a mix of cultures 45:44 Local producers 46:50 Financing the restaurant 48’18 The daily life of the chef 51’24 Normalising eating plant-based as a goal 52’24 Final questions   LinksChefs & mentors Josean Alija, Nerua (Guggenheim, Bilbao, Spain) @joseanalija, www.joseanalija.com Andreas Caminda (Schauenstein Castle, Fürstenaubruck, Switzerland) @andreas_caminada_schauenstein Dan Barber (Blue Hill, NYC), @chefdanbaber Daniela Soto-Innes (Cosme, NYC), @danielasotoinnes, @cosmenycKle Restaurant:www.restaurantkle.com, @klerestaurantFood Producers for the Kle Restaurant Animal Sanctuary Hof Narr: www.hof-narr.ch Fair-trade nuts supplier: Gebana: www.gebana.comChocolate supplier: Felchlin: www.felchlin.comHelp me grow up Brillantes! If you liked the episode, please share it with as many people as possible, rate it with 5 stars and subscribe to the podcast on your listening platform. This help will be extremely precious to me And if you don't want to miss anything that happens on Brillantes, follow Brillantes and her host on social networks!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brillantes.media/LinkedIn Jeanne du Sartel https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartel/Brillantes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/brillantes

Wies Bratby, my guest this week, is fighting every day for more female recognition in the workplace. Her choice of weapon? The art of negotiation. For several years now, she has been helping women like you and me to gain recognition in the workplace and on the job market, whether it’s for a higher position or salary. The studies are telling: although women tend to be excellent negotiators for their surroundings or company, they don't fight enough for their own interests. And yet... without negotiation, the wage gap widens, the glass ceiling cannot be broken and motivation at work declines. You will hear Wies reflect on her childhood and how a passion for negotiation led her from the largest law firm in her country to head of HR in a global company in Hong Kong. She also tells me what drove her to set up her own firm, Women in Negotiation (WIN). But the essential part of this rather exceptional episode is centred on the ‘why’ and how-tos of negotiation (from the 23rd minute). You'll find tips and tricks, the essential checklist before landing in your boss’s office, or before setting the price of your product. The Dutch native also explains the strength of crafting and tapping into your network and the community. Whether you are just starting your career or you already have high responsibilities, whether you are unemployed, building a business from scratch or already running a successful startup, you should all be hanging on her every word!Time codes 03:36 Surrounded by sparkling women 05:52 The need for flexibility in the work place as one of the main learning from the Covid crisis 07:55 Successfully working together with her husband 08:51 Being raised in a tiny village in the Netherlands 09:34 Advocating for others: a life-long passion, leading to negotiation 11:21 Starting her career in a big law firm from the Netherlands 12:55 Starting her career without negotiating: or how to become her first client 15:52 Moving to Hong-Kong and shifting to HR 17:44 The cultural fit as the main success indicator 19:05 Helping people do their best work and making them shine through HR 21:29 Launching negotiation trainings inside her company 23:11 The global difficulty for women to negotiate 24:43 Why are women naturally better negotiators than men…26:16 … but negotiation on their own behalf goes against their education 27:45 The need to work on internal self-estime 28:30 “It costs a company between 100% and 400% of someone’s annual salary to replace that person”30:21 Valuing the people, or how to unleash motivation, passion and good work 32:56 Negotiating requires hard work 34:46 Quick and dirty tips for your negotiation : Prepare properly and aim high 37:22 The difference between being a negotiator or not in financial terms 38:40 Helping startups set up the right (and high!) prices - because price and value are connected in people’s mind 41:04 Your customers become a ton more of fun the more you charge! 42:36 The gender inequality for startups and fund-raising 44:12 Breaking gender biaises through education48:13 Connecting people and ideas, all over the world 49:40 Creating a “old girls network”, and pear support through the Lean In organisation  51:49 “We are stronger together”53:18 Final questions Interesting links and references Social mediasOn Linkedin account: https://www.linkedin.com/in/womeninnegotiation/On instagram Her account: https://www.instagram.com/wiesbratby/WIN account: https://www.instagram.com/womeninnegotiation/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WomenInNegotiationInteresting websites Her company Women in Negociation : https://womeninnegotiation.org/Lean in Switzerland: https://www.leaninswitzerland.org/References Book that shifted her way to think: Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In (2011), by Roger Fisher The women she would like to hear in a Brillantes episode : Fungai Mettler https://www.fungaimettler.com/Help me grow up Brillantes! If you liked the episode, please share it with as many people as possible, rate it with 5 stars and subscribe to the podcast on your listening platform. This help will be extremely precious to me Find all the links to listen to the episodes here: https://www.flow.page/brillantesAnd follow Brillantes and her host on social networks!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brillantes.media/Linkedin: Jeanne du Sartel https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartel/Brillantes: https://www.linkedin.com/company/brillantesFacebook : https://www.facebook.com/brillantes.media

Sophia Singh, a professional Swiss make-up artist of Indian origin, has been working in all the big European capitals, lending her services to the most famous fashion shows and magazines.  In Zurich she constantly engages herself in new projects, including ads, shoots or magazines.Just one year ago, Sophia started her own business. The Beauty Kollective, her online shop dedicated to clean, non-toxic green beauty, is becoming increasingly successful.   In the first part of the interview (08:14 - 23:55) Sophia tells me about her job as a make-up artist. She makes me understand why make-up is art by talking about her techniques and inspirations. We talk about beauty, trying to define it and understanding its conception and evolution. Finally, we refer to the power of the network and to women's mutual support that exists in this sector.  From 26:55 on, we talk about entrepreneurship and she explains what led her to create the Beauty Kollective. Sophia describes all the steps she took to create her company, explains her achievements, but also her challenges and difficulties. From administration to marketing, she demystifies the process of creating such a business and tells me about her future plans.To all those who want to be inspired by Sofia's incredible work ethos and her confidence in the future, all those who want to discover a new universe or to create their own project, I invite you to dive into this discussion. TIME CODES 3:45 Being surrounding by sparkling women05:06 Questioning the value of your job 06:08 A Swiss and Indian childhood Being a makeup artist  08:14 Becoming a makeup artist: a dream since ever 10:02 The definition and evolution of beauty13:15 Make up vs feminism? 15:12 Make up as an art 17:45 From Berlin to London: the start of her make up artist career19:45 Establishing her name in the competitive fashion industry 22:50 The most inspiring fashion show, by Manish Arora 23:55 The importance of network and sorority The beauty Kollective 26:55 The need for cruelty-free, vegan and green beauty 28:55 Creating the Beauty Kollective and finding the right partner 32:26 Financing an online shop with little money 34:52 Selecting the clean and sustainable products for “basic” consumers and makeup artists 36:55 Investing in marketing: tips and learnings after one year 38:43 Challenges and learnings after one year 40:42 Collaborating with the Zurich NGO “Nuy Food With Plastic”41:44 Dreaming of a refill beauty shop 42:21 Final Questions: scares, inspirations, organisation and beauty tips.  INTERESTING LINKS AND REFERENCESTo follow Sophia: Website: www.sophiasingh.comRepresented by: @stylecouncilagencyOn Instagram: www.instagram.com/sophiasinghTo follow the Beauty Kollective Website: www.thebeautykollective.comInstagram: www.instagram.com/thebeautykollectiveProjects and people Sophia is talking about:Beauty professionals Founder of Abhati Suisse : Anju Rupol, www.abhatisuisse.comFashion Show: Manish Arora, Burning Man Project, 2018 www.instagram.com/manisharorafashionMake up artist : Kabuki: www.instagram.com/kabukinycBuy food with plastic : www.buyfoodwithplastic.org/HELP ME GROW BRILLANTES!If you liked the episode, please share it with minimum two other people, rate it with 5 stars and subscribe to the podcast on your listening platform. This help is extremely precious to me.Find all the links to listen to the episodes here : www.flow.page/brillantesAnd follow Brillantes and her host on social networks!Instagram : www.instagram.com/brillantes.mediaLinkedin : Jeanne du Sartel : www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartelBrillantes : www.linkedin.com/company/brillantesFacebook : www.facebook.com/brillantes.media

Four years ago, Philippine Delouvrier founded in London Escape & Co., an event and communication agency, centred around the themes that drives her: gastronomy, art and travel. Since then, the Parisian lives in Zurich, and creates events of all kinds in almost all the capitals of Europe. Whether they take place in Milan, Barcelona, Geneva, Paris, London or Zurich, all are stamped with her good taste. Her social networks are full of ideas for charming restaurants and hotels. The latest project of the young mother? The launch of a collection of "Mum of ..." T-shirts featuring mothers from all those cities that Philippine knows like the back of her hand. I was already impressed by her hard work and what she had developed on her very own. When I met her, one sunny morning in July, I got amazed by her positivism, her energy and her open-mindedness. In this discussion, we talk about business of course, she explains her career path and what led this former employee to entrepreneurship. Philippine explains me her successes as well as her fears. We also talk about family, couples, her life as an Expat’ that she wouldn't leave for anything in the world, and the place of women in our society. Do you want to also create your own company and build an international network? Or are you interested in the event and communication business or just wish to fill up with positive energy? This episode is for you! Time codes03:40 Being surrounded with brilliant women 04:50 Going thought the Covid crisis as a young mother and entrepreneur07:50 A Parisian childhood, turned toward art and culture 09:34 Art vs Economics: choosing the rational path for her studies 11:23 Starting her experience abroad in Argentina 12:55 Taking the best out of failures 15:23 “Discovering the world through people” : a year of Master at ESADE, in Barcelona 19:06 Becoming the perfect expat  21:37 Settling up in Zurich 22:56 Starting as a consultant at EY 25:09 Turning to a more creative industry, in the Marketing Department of Swarovski 27:48 Making the decision to move for a couple where both are working 29:05 A manager pushes you to get the best out of yourself Entrepreneurial experience: the creation of Escape & Co29:54 Starting with the organisation of “experiences” for friends and family and writing a food and travel blog32:27 Living with financial uncertainty - but optimism 34:57 Finding the first client in Barcelona: the power of believing in yourself38:45 Organising events all over Europe 40:00 Diversifying activities, with three obsessions: gastronomy, art and travels 42:35 Launching the “Mum of (Zurich, Paris, Milano …) T-shirt collection43:41 Keeping up motivation and creativity 45:06 Sorority, feminism, and the role of women in the society 48:20 Setting up your prices as an entrepreneur 49’27 Entrepreneurship : freedom, proudness and hard work51’44 Final Questions Interesting links and references To follow Philippine : LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/philippinedelouvrier/To follow Escape & Co. Website: escapeandco.com/Instagram: Escape & Co. (Travel & T-shirts): www.instagram.com/escape_and_co/ // Agency: www.instagram.com/escape_and_co_agency/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/escape-and-co./Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/escapeandco/Help me grow up Brillantes! If you liked the episode, please share it with as many people as possible, rate it with 5 stars and subscribe to the podcast on your listening platform. This help will be extremely precious to me Find all the links to listen to the episodes here: www.flow.page/brillantesAnd follow Brillantes and her host on social networks!Instagram: www.instagram.com/brillantes.media/Linkedin: Jeanne du Sartel www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartel/Brillantes: www.linkedin.com/company/brillantesFacebook : www.facebook.com/brillantes.media

Il y a 4 ans, Philippine Delouvrier créait Escape & Co., une agence d’évènementiel et de communication, centrée autour des trois thèmes qui la font vibrer: la gastronomie, l’art et les voyages. Depuis, la parisienne habite Zurich, et crée des évènements de toutes sortes, dans presque toutes les capitales d’Europe. Qu’ils aient lieu à Milan, Barcelone, Genève, Paris, Londres ou Zurich, tous sont marqués au fer rouge par son bon goût. Ses réseaux sociaux regorgent de bons plans, pour restaurants ou hôtels de charme. Son dernier projet? Le lancement d’une collection de tee-shirts “Mum of …” mettant en avant les mamans de toutes ces villes que Philippine connait sur le bout des doigts. J’étais déjà impressionnée par sa force de travail et l’univers qu’elle avait développé, seule. En la rencontrant, un matin de juillet, j’ai été bluffée par son positivisme, son énergie, son ouverture d’esprit. Dans cette discussion, nous parlons business bien sur, elle m’explique son parcours et ce qui a mené cette ancienne salariée épanouie à l’entrepreneuriat. Philippine m’explique ses succès, ses peurs et ses angoisses. Nous parlons aussi de famille, de couple, de sa vie d’expatriée qu’elle ne quitterait pour rien au monde, puis de la place des femmes dans notre société. Alors, pour tous ceux qui veulent à leur tour créer leur propre entreprise, se construire un réseau à l’international comprendre tous les dessous de l’évènementiel et de la communication, ou simplement faire le plein d’énergie positive, cet épisode est pour vous! Time Codes 03:55 Etre entourée de femmes brillantes 04:30 Entre confinement, naissance et business 07:38 Une enfance heureuse et parisienne 10:00 Entre Art et Business, mon coeur balance 13:07 Un master à Barcelone… 15:40 … et le début d’une vie à l’international 18:14 Les débuts zurichois 19:40 Couple, travail et déménagements 21:50 L’avantage de commencer en conseil chez Ernst & Young 24:49 Trouver de la créativité chez Swarovski L’expérience entrepreneuriale27:33 Se lancer dans l’entrepreneuriat, depuis Londres 29:13 L’agence d’évènementiel et de communication Escape&Co31:24 L’importance de la gastronomie 33:50 Créer des expériences sur mesure35:33 Créer des événements partout, grâce à un solide réseau à travers l’Europe 38:32 Entreprendre avec optimisme, malgré les difficultés 41:13 Entre sororité et féminisme  43:49 Questions de fin  Interesting links and references To follow Philippine : LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/philippinedelouvrier/To follow Escape & Co.  Website: escapeandco.com/Instagram: Escape & Co. (Voyages & T-shirts): www.instagram.com/escape_and_co/ //Agence: www.instagram.com/escape_and_co_agency/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/escape-and-co./Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/escapeandco/Aidez moi à faire grandir Brillantes! Si l’épisode vous a plu, aidez-moi en le partageant le à deux personnes minimum autour de vous. Si possible, notez le avec 5 étoiles sur Apple Podcast et glissez-y un gentil commentaire. Abonnez-vous enfin à Brillantes sur vos plateformes d’écoute préférées! Votre aide est extrêmement précieuse. Retrouvez tous les liens vers les Brillantes ici: www.flow.page/brillantesEt suivez Brillantes et sa fondatrice sur les réseaux sociaux!Instagram: www.instagram.com/brillantes.media/Linkedin: Jeanne du Sartel www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartelBrillantes: www.linkedin.com/company/brillantesFacebook : www.facebook.com/brillantes.media

Raphaela Pichler is a photographer, artist, consultant, musician ... Certainly one of the most creative Zurich women I know. Her signature? natural, benevolent portraits, with plays of light, delicacy and harmony. Raphaela works for fashion and advertising, but her speciality lies in portraying women.In 2019, she got nominated as the best photograph of the year for her biggest artist project, Currency. In this ongoing series of self-portraits, she uses the codes of fashion photography to challenge the notion of value. With her twin sister Marisa Burn, she has also created the House of Change, an institute dedicated to creativity and change. As consultants, they help companies, leaders and individuals to put creativity, authenticity and courage back at the heart of their journey. In this episode, Raphaela describes her passion for photography, her professional beginnings, her successes. But we also talk about her disappointments, the challenges she is facing as a freelancer, as well as her fears and uncertainties. In this deep discussion, Raphaela explains how she recently became an artist. She shares with me her poetic vision of the world and opens my eyes to what creativity can bring to our society. Finally, of course, we talk about women and their status, and we discuss about feminism. So don't waste a minute, take a deep dive into Raphaela’s creative universe, open your mind and let yourself be inspired by this beautiful conversation.  Time codes4:45 Being surrounded by close sparkling women 5’56 A free and artistic mind, in a small village in Aargau, Switzerland 6:53 An early passion for photography… disconnected from the reality of the work  11’36 Learning to become a photographer : From analog to digital photography 15’15 Making the difference as a young independent photographer17:45 When Photography becomes an art 20:30 Portraying women as a passion 23’10 Making the perfect portrait26’26 The Currency project: Challenging the concept of value28’36 Facing the struggles of the Media industry 33’21 Going through the Covid Crisis as an artist 34’41 The ‘House of change’, an institute for creativity and change with her Twin sister 39’04 Questioning legitimacy + the need to work on our human skills  42’00 Contribute to creating a better world, by helping, inspiring and connecting people45’38 Working on your creativity 47’40 Working and partnering with a (twin) sister  50’07 The fears that lies behind the freedom of being self-employed 52’45 Organising your time and working on a creative environment 55’18 Sorority and feminism as a way of life 58’17 Final questions Interesting links and references To follow RaphaelaWebsite: www.raphaelapichler.ch/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/raphaela-pichler-793997195/Instagram: www.instagram.com/raphaelapichler/To follow her ProjectsCurrency Instagram: www.instagram.com/currencymag/Website: www.raphaelapichler.ch/currencyHouse of Change by BurnPichler: Website: https://www.burnpichler.com/Instagram: www.instagram.com/houseofchangeby/References in the episodes  Inspiring podcasts and episodesPodcast Astropod Alexander von Schlieffen : https://astropod-schlieffen.de/Brillantes Podcast - Zineb Hattab, (Kle Restaurant): https://podcasts.apple.com/ch/podcast/2-zineb-hattab-from-engineering-to-haute-vegan-cuisine/id1528977353?i=1000489702745&l=frBrillantes Podcast - Wies Bratby (Women in Negociation): https://podcasts.apple.com/ch/podcast/3-wies-bratby-negotiation-as-a-weapon-for-women/id1528977353?i=1000490301431&l=frPeople she is talking about Her twin sister Marisa Burn: marisaburn.comHer inspiring friend Kathrin Eckhardt: www.kathrineckhardt.com/Help me grow up Brillantes! If you liked the episode, please share it with as many people as possible, rate it with 5 stars, add a nice comment and subscribe to the podcast on your listening platform. This help will be extremely precious to me.Find all the links to listen to the episodes here: www.flow.page/brillantesFollow Brillantes on social networks!Instagram: www.instagram.com/brillantes.media/Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/company/brillantesFacebook: www.facebook.com/brillantes.mediaFollow Jeanne du Sartel on social networks: Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartel/Instagram: www.instagram.com/jeannedusartel/

She has not finished her studies yet, but is already fighting on a daily basis to make her professional sector, tech, a more inclusive one. A place where women and men would fight on equal terms.Three years ago, Céline Nauer co-founded Code Excursion, a coding school by and for women, conceived as a community. There, she teaches women about programming, in a helpful, passionate and including way. Her goal? To help and encourage women take ownership of such a male-dominated sector.  Since the beginning of her studies, Céline has been navigating in the least feminized academic and professional environments, science and technology. Today, women still represent on average only 30% of STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics) students. And this percentage decreases with the expertise level: only 5% of leadership positions in the tech sector are held by women. But these figures have never discouraged Céline. After a bachelor's degree in physics at the University of Zurich, the woman whose aim in life is to learn as much as possible, is now finishing her master's degree in Neuroscience and Computation at the ETH. In this interview, Celine tells how the gender-neutral education she received pushed her down this path. She explains how her years at university, between Zurich and Taiwan, but also in the industry, at Swiss Post Solutions, convinced her to fight for parity and equality in tech and science. Through her clear and concrete examples, Céline describes why the scientific world today is anything but meritocratic. We talk about the gender bias that the algorithms that shape our daily lives carry within them, and she demonstrates the absolute necessity for diversity in the tech and scientific worlds. Roles models, female initiatives, quotas: we go though all the solutions that can be implemented to promote gender quality. To everyone who you is thinking about learning how to code, or who would just like to better understand those crucial topics for our democracies, I invite you to dive into this exciting and challenging conversation! Time Codes 4:52 A brilliant mind: Corina, co-founder of Code Excursion 6:36 Being introduced and encouraged to go into science at an early ageStudies, between Zurich and Taiwan 8:44 Choosing physics: the rational choice to get the most of her studies 10:55 How “I think therefore I am” from Descartes convinced Céline to go into Physics 13:17 Shifting to neuro Sciences and Computation 14:54 Studying at the Institute of Neuro informatics (UZH and ETH) 17:06 Celine’s Master thesis: getting inspired by insects brains to develop navigational algorithms  18:22 Next career steps? 19:25 Taiwanese vs Swiss studies 22:30 “The science world is not a meritocracy” 24:22 Studying in a male-dominated environment 26:14 Facing sexism amongst the students body 27:55 Why it is important to break the glass ceiling 29:12 Female professors should be our role models Code excursion30:51 The need for a safe and benevolent learning environment for coding 34:19 The importance of coding knowhow in a digitised society 37:00 A non-profit organisation, dedicated to women, based on a community 40:48 The impact of the lack of women in the tech industry (eg of the Swiss Post Solutions and Ava Women)  44:27 How machine learning algorithms can reproduce the biases of our society 48:24 Sorority as a main weapon to fight inequality and gender biaises in tech 51:20 Final questions Links and references To follow Code Excursion : Website: codeexcursion.ch/LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/school/code-excursion/Instagram: www.instagram.com/codeexcursion/Facebook: www.facebook.com/codeexcursionswitzerlandTo follow Céline Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/celinenauer/References in the episodes  The Institute of Neuro Informatics (ETH and University of Zurich): www.ini.uzh.ch/en.htmlI think therefore I am, Descartes: http://faculty.winthrop.edu/sinnj/HMXP_102/Readings/Rene_Descartes.pdfPeople she is talking about Corina Schedler, Co-Founder of Code Excursion: www.linkedin.com/in/corinaschedler/Nora Wilhelm, Co-Founder Collaboratio Helvatica: www.norawilhelm.org/Help me grow up Brillantes! If you liked the episode, please share it with as many people as possible, rate it with 5 stars and subscribe to the podcast on your listening platform. This help will be extremely precious to me Find all the links to listen to the episodes here: www.flow.page/brillantesFollow Brillantes on social networks:Instagram: www.instagram.com/brillantes.media/Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/company/brillantesFacebook : www.facebook.com/brillantes.mediaAnd her host and founder, Jeanne du Sartel:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jeannedusartel/Instagram: www.instagram.com/jeannedusartel/Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeanneduSartel